Originally Posted By: Ben99GT
Originally Posted By: 3Toyotas
Originally Posted By: Ben99GT
Please don't tell me 3Toyotas is trying to argue that his Tundra "out-tows" turbo diesels
again.
Not only did it outperfrom 0-60 times pulling 7500lbs, but it did better in the 60-0 braking, hill climb, and mpg in THEIR tests. The biggest test of all was the 60-0 braking with wet roads (towing & empty).
Not only have I read those tests, but I'm pretty sure I read the pickuptrucks.com test
before you did; seeing as how I read it within the hour it was originally posted. What does that matter? It doesn't. But then again, neither do 0-60 mph times.
Fact is this; put a 10,000 lb. trailer behind a modern 3/4-ton+ turbodiesel and put a 10,000 lb trailer behind a 5.7 Tundra (we'll even give them trailer brakes) and let them loose on a 5,000 mile road trip that includes mountains, and that Tundra will have worked it BALLS OFF trying to do what the turbodiesel does with little effort. Get used to sustained 5,000-6,000 rpm pulls in the Tundra. The Tundra driver's nerves will be frayed and his pocket book lighter when he gets that fuel and (likely) repair bill, the turbodiesel's driver will step out yawing.
If all you are concerned about are 0-60 times while loaded, there are plenty
sports cars that would annihilate the Tundra on that front. By your juvenile standards, I suppose a C6 Vette is not only a better tow vehicle than 5.7 Tundra, but also a turbodiesel as well.
Have you figured out how a turbocharger works yet?
Have you figured out how one would allow a diesel to hold O/D better than a Tundra could ever hope to?
I'm definately not interested in 0-60 times either with MY TRUCK. But it's nice knowing how well it did.
Obviously, you didn't care to comment on the stopping distance comparisons. Why's that? After all, at rv.net they all stress the importance of GOOD braking don't they?
I'd say 20-40 feet shorter can mean the difference between crash or no crash, wouldn't you say?
You surely weren't thinking about a 10k trailer without brakes were you? That would be pretty stupid. Oh, btw The tundra would be at max capacity at 10k. Would your 3/4 ton turbo diesel be at max as well? I seriously doubt it, so the playing field would need to be equal. Something like 8k-tundra/10k turbo diesel, or max tundra/max TD. Mainly because according to you, the turbo diesel must be far more superior so it should be able to tow 25% more weight, while maintaining MUCH better mpg and keep the same speed. Right? This would be interesting to see ACTUAL comparisons here, that's for sure.
I really don't care how hard my truck has to work towing 10k, as long as it does what i ask of it. Which it does quite nicely.
I very rarely see 5-6k rpm's pulling my fiver, unless it's a huge grade. And at 70 mph or so in 3rd gear (holding speed i might ad on a hill), it can be in the high 4k rpm range.
Nurves freighed? I guess if you're a white knuckle type of driver to begin with, then yeah. Like those drivers you see with both hands on the steering wheel on the freeway, looking strait ahead looking like it's the first thing they've ever done. Those type of drivers, yeah i agree. If towing is second nature, then it shouldn't bother you at all. And it doesn't even phase me whatsoever, and i still yawn after a long drive while towing.
Oh, and Utah has quite a few mountains to say the least.
Fuel and repair bill? That was a good one there. Towing for over 20 years with toyota products, and i have yet to see a repair bill. And you were saying?
Real world towing mileage is quite close with a slight edge to the diesel. Maybe 1-2 mpg from what i've read up on.
As far as a turbo working, yes i understand it now thanks to your expertise. haha I do know they like to burn up quite often if the EGT's get too hot from what i've read. As far as holding in OD while towing; the tundra has 2 overdrive gears and yes, it holds on the flat in 5th just fine. When i come to a good hill, i just expect to drop a gear. No big deal to me, and i hardly even feel it shift. You see, the tundra has a HUGE trans cooler up front unlike the ford's i've seen which were half the size.
Now don't get your panties in a bunch on that. I've only seen a few fords, so maybe that's changed since then. Don't know, i don't pay much attention to ford's.