Thinking of going back to MC 5w20 or "gold" PYB

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Originally Posted By: crazyoildude
I see a little varnish starting (very little) that was not there with the Motorcraft... I see this in two engines.
So you have two engines that you can definitively say that QSUD contributed to varnish build-up? What was the OCI and how long/many times did you run QSUD? The SN version of QSUD is a very good oil and I would be very surprised that it caused varnish (not saying it is not possible).
 
I would gladly run QSUD for the recommended interval of 10k miles on the Jag. I don't see why anyone would think a modern synthetic with the latest add packs would cause varnish with a proper OCI.
 
Originally Posted By: Mantooth
Originally Posted By: donnyj08
Car 51 can you get Trop Artic in your area?? If you can it is usually cheaper than MC. It has a similar add pack and a lower Noack.


Too bad you can't get Trop Artic, I picked up 12qts for $1.99/qt at my local farm store.

Also, three pages into this thread about Syn blends and no one has mentioned Valv. Max life. Surprised.


I also use the Trop-Artic blend in my other vehicles that I buy for $1.99 at the local Farm store. A good oil at a great price.

Wayne
 
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: hydrogen3
Ignoring the poster who said he had varnish I see.

No, mostly ignoring you I think.


Yup
 
Originally Posted By: hydrogen3
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: hydrogen3
Ignoring the poster who said he had varnish I see.

No, mostly ignoring you I think.


Evidence that QSUD is not a good choice of oil. Varnish leads to sludge.


I think the only thing you can say is that varnish leads to varnish.

I've seen tons of pics on this site of engines that have a buildup of varnish but no sludge to be found.

I've also seen some with some sludge buildup but no varnish to be seen.
 
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Originally Posted By: hydrogen3
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: hydrogen3
Ignoring the poster who said he had varnish I see.

No, mostly ignoring you I think.


Evidence that QSUD is not a good choice of oil. Varnish leads to sludge.


I think the only thing you can say is that varnish leads to varnish.

I've seen tons of pics on this site of engines that have a buildup of varnish but no sludge to be found.

I've also seen some with some sludge buildup but no varnish to be seen.


SludgeVarnish.JPG
 
Originally Posted By: hydrogen3
All I know is the guy has varnish in two cars from using QSUD. Kind of speaks for it self. Don't ya think? I do.


Lmao. You get funnier with each post.
 
Originally Posted By: hydrogen3
So you think it's funny he has varnish? Lmao he should try M1 to clean the varnish possible sludge.


Actually what I think is funny is that you say a "guy" has varnish, without giving any details like type of car, driving conditions, OCI, etc. So we are supposed to believe that a "guy" has an issue and it somehow translates to a global truth about a particular brand?

Here, this my 1MZ-FE after approximately 300,000 miles on nearly exclusively M1 oil. See any varnish? How about in the valve cover? Is that an indictment of M1 oil? I think not, I'm not that stupid to try and convince myself it's not the 1MZ-FE engine instead.

My 1MZ-FE
 
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: hydrogen3
So you think it's funny he has varnish? Lmao he should try M1 to clean the varnish possible sludge.


Actually what I think is funny is that you say a "guy" has varnish, without giving any details like type of car, driving conditions, OCI, etc. So we are supposed to believe that a "guy" has an issue and it somehow translates to a global truth about a particular brand.

Here. Here's my 1MZ-FE after approximately 300,000 miles on nearly exclusively M1 oil. See any varnish? How about in the valve cover? Is that an indictment of M1 oil? I think not, I'm not that stupid to try and convince myself it's not the 1MZ-FE engine instead



My 1MZ-FE



Looks likes sludge to me. You could not of been using M1.
 
Originally Posted By: hydrogen3
Looks likes sludge to me. You could not of been using M1.


Bzzzt wrong, not a spot of sludge to be seen. And nearly all M1 except for a few OCIs of CG back about 8 years ago when that was all the rage here on BITOG. Short intervals too just like I said in that thread.

Try again!
 
Originally Posted By: hydrogen3
Can't deny the poster that said he has varnish in 2 cars with QSUD. End of story.


Either you're incredibly ignorant or only posting to be a troll. Which is it, Tritium?
 
The man said he had varnish in 2 vehicles. Why would he lie? Read the thread. You yourself are A M1 man she'll oils are second to mobile.
 
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Originally Posted By: hydrogen3
You yourself are A M1 man she'll oils are second to mobile.
What? Dude, step away from the keyboard...
 
Originally Posted By: hydrogen3
The man said he had varnish in 2 vehicles. Why would he lie? Read the thread. You yourself are A M1 man Shell oils are second to Mobil.


I corrected those spelling errors for you. But at least now we are getting to the real point.

I can play along a little more I guess. So how did he know that the varnish was caused by the Shell oil? Did he have an identical engine running under identical conditions using M1 oil that didn't have varnish? What was the control and what was the variable? Please don't tell us he (or you) was comparing to other engines.
 
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