They don't lock their bikes in Japan.

I hear its a very clean and beautiful country. Laws are strict and people respectful of one another's property. Would be wonderful for those same values here.
Have been learning their culture from my 2 teachers there. Basically for that system to work you

1) Everyone must be the same and they have a saying called "the nail that stands out must be hammered down". Don't expect the same trust and coordination in the US if you want the US freedom. They do bully people who stands out.

2) They don't treat foreigners the same way as they treat the locals because they know the locals will fear peer pressure to conform.

It works both ways, you gain some you lose some. The pressure to conform can probably suffocate most people who are used to the American freedom.
 
Perhaps things have changed. Narita bathrooms are ultra modern and spotless. This whole airport is the nicest I have ever been in.
Was there in Terminal 1 last December. It is a decent airport, certainly nowhere close to the dirtiest major airport I have been to. It is at least in the top 50% of all.

I was actually disappointed at the Taipei Taoyuan airport actually.
 
We vacationed in Tokyo and Kyoto. Men (almost never saw women) smoked huddled around designated sidewalk areas, and the cigarette stubs were placed in collector cans 2 meters away. Crime rated was almost zero. Everything was organized and everyone was polite and disciplined. We saw only one showoff, he was in a car with a brrraaappppp muffler.
 
Earlier this year we had a holiday in Tunisa on the North African coast. On an organised motor scooter tour I asked the tour leader if we should lock the scooters when parked. He said leave the key in the ignition and I assure you no one will touch it while we are away. He was right and this in the capital city of the region. Tunisia is pretty much a 100% Muslim country but it's very much a moderate laid back Islam rather than the extremism in Iran and Afghanistan.

On the safety and disciplined culture of Japan, it's not entirely what it was but the recent increase in crime (I heard of somebody being robbed) is almost entirely down to immigration which is a familiar story in other countries too. The Japanese were fools to let immigration infiltrate their culture.
 
Even in the US, crime is highly localized and regional. There are lots of places where bikes are rarely molested.
Growing up in the burbs, in one of the lower-class ones on the other side of the tracks, we left our bikes everywhere in town. Pizzeria, newspaper shop, the park. We didn't worry until, later in our teenage years one of us did get a bike swiped.

Funnily we saw the same bike at the pizzeria, spray painted flat black, and just stole it back. From then on we had someone watch the bikes and were more cautious.

Tunisia is pretty much a 100% Muslim country but it's very much a moderate laid back Islam rather than the extremism in Iran and Afghanistan.
Punishments in these countries are severe. Caning is still practiced in many, with the worst offending countries stone women and amputate hands.

It would be considered cruel and unusual in the US, unfortunately....

"Living conditions in Tunisian prisons are harsh: out of date institutions, poor hygiene, difficulty in accessing medical care, poor food, inadequate activities and visiting facilities, violence, torture etc. Inmates are held in large, regularly overcrowded dormitories. Not all prisoners have their own bed, some sleep on the floor."
https://www.prison-insider.com/en/countryprofile/tunisie-2017

We all know the answer why!
Why? seriously
Because it is a high-trust society.

High-trust starts at home with excellent parenting teaching highly uniform cultural mores. Everyone is on the same page, as @PandaBear put it, the nail that sticks out gets the hammer, that's reinforcement enough socially and legally. Jus tliek in Tunisia

The reason we have gangs of youths raiding stores, stealing, drug issues, broken families is the welfare system broke down the family structure IMHO and passing down traditional western, Christian values stopped. Look at pre and post welfare African-American divorce and nuclear family stats. Before welfare, this cohort actually had a lower divorce rate than whites, after it changed, a lot. It's a complicated topic, but there is a crime correlation here which is undeniable.

Before the major expansion of the US welfare system in the 1960s, the vast majority of Black children were raised in two-parent, married households. Following the expansion of these programs, non-marital birth rates rose significantly. Research indicates a strong correlation between the subsequent rise in fatherless homes and higher rates of youth and violent crime

Pre-Welfare Era: Throughout the first half of the 20th century, the Black nuclear family was the norm. Up into the 1950s, over \(75\%\) of Black children lived with married parents, and out-of-wedlock birth rates were roughly \(25\%\). In 1950, only about \(9\%\) of Black children lived without their father in the home.Post-Welfare Era: Following the expansion of social programs (such as the Great Society initiatives in the mid-1960s), family structures shifted drastically. Non-marital births began to climb, reaching nearly \(69\%\) to \(72\%\) by the late 1990s and 2000s. Today, only about \(44\%\) of Black children live with both parents.

The Link to Delinquency: Research from institutions like the Heritage Foundation notes that communities and demographics with high concentrations of fatherless or single-parent homes frequently experience corresponding spikes in juvenile crime and gang activity.Economic and Social Factors: Studies, including analyses by the Cato Institute, indicate that children from single-parent households are significantly more likely to engage in anti-social behavior or become involved in the criminal-legal system.

The "Man in the House" rule:
  • The "Man in the House" rule: Older welfare policies often disqualified families from receiving aid if an able-bodied adult male was present in the home, which incentivized separation.
  • Joblessness: Deindustrialization in urban centers and mass incarceration heavily impacted Black men, reducing the pool of stably employed partners and disrupting family formation. Joblessness: Deindustrialization in urban centers and mass incarceration heavily impacted Black men, reducing the pool of stably employed partners and disrupting family formation."
 
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I locked my bikes back in my college days and they do still get stolen. Liquid nitrogen works well against bike locks and they can always lift it to the back of a pick up truck and haul away.
What a horrible way to live in an area where you have to worry about theft. I learned my lesson in Irvine CA. That place is the armpit of USA. Car jackings, armed robbery and vandalism are the norm.

Where I live I can leave a bicycle (or any valuables) out in front of my yard or back of my truck at Gelsons Market with zero concern of theft. I will say when I travel across the country I'm on a higher alert and my head is on a swivel.

Two other very safe places I would not mind living are Buda TX and Norman OK. Those are regions where crime is virtually unheard of. Like here in most of Southern CA, almost everyone is heeled.
 
Would love to go to Japan for a long stay, the only place I would feel comfortable would be Nishinari-ku in Osaka.
I've read going to Disneyland Japan is cheaper than in the US, which includes the flight. IDK how true it is but would make a much better trip with more things to do.
 
What a horrible way to live in an area where you have to worry about theft. I learned my lesson in Irvine CA. That place is the armpit of USA.

If Irvine is the armpit I don't know where else in California isn't. It is one of the safest place in SoCal already. Having said that I would park way far from Oakland and Tenderloin San Francisco any day of the week.
 
One of the advantages of a very homogeneous society. Kinda of all for one and one for all attititude. I'm a third generation here in the USA of Japanese ancestry...even so, I was brought up about personal responsibility and never bring shame on the family.
 
Earlier this year we had a holiday in Tunisa on the North African coast. On an organised motor scooter tour I asked the tour leader if we should lock the scooters when parked. He said leave the key in the ignition and I assure you no one will touch it while we are away. He was right and this in the capital city of the region. Tunisia is pretty much a 100% Muslim country but it's very much a moderate laid back Islam rather than the extremism in Iran and Afghanistan.

On the safety and disciplined culture of Japan, it's not entirely what it was but the recent increase in crime (I heard of somebody being robbed) is almost entirely down to immigration which is a familiar story in other countries too. The Japanese were fools to let immigration infiltrate their culture.
Other nations have very different punishment systems than the US and Europe. The "innocent until proven guilty" thing isn't something other cultures always practice and they tend to weed out a lot of potential criminals before they become out of control. It is not always about immigration but absolutely much more alarming in the "refugee rescue" system.

Also many countries have criminal orgs running part of the social orders and they would discipline things inconvenient by the formal legal system. Yakuza would took care of a lot of problems before they need to send in swat team unlike the US. As for the rise in crime I heard the Chinese gang in Japan drove out a lot of local Yakuza etc, then the Vietnamese gang drove out the Chinese gang, then the Kurdish gang drove out the Vietnamese gang.

I love that Singapore has the cane system even for graffiti. It is a good compromise between the free for all US and the "cut of the hands if you are caught stealing" in Tunisia.

Would love to go to Japan for a long stay, the only place I would feel comfortable would be Nishinari-ku in Osaka. The wife is absolutely against setting foot in Japan.
I assume you mean un-comfortable instead?
 
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Yakuza would took care of a lot of problems before they need to send in swat team unlike the US. As for the rise in crime I heard the Chinese gang in Japan drove out a lot of local Yakuza etc, then the Vietnamese gang drove out the Chinese gang, then the Kurdish gang drove out the Vietnamese gang.
Sheesh, what is going on with these gangs. I like this gangs working for the people system. Maybe let them slide with some underground gambling, harmless stuff, no drugs, like the old style Italian mafia, as long as they take care of the riff-raff.
 
Before the major expansion of the US welfare system in the 1960s, the vast majority of Black children were raised in two-parent, married households. Following the expansion of these programs, non-marital birth rates rose significantly. Research indicates a strong correlation between the subsequent rise in fatherless homes and higher rates of youth and violent crime

One thing though. Japan DO have a problem of low income household falling on hard time, single moms, high divorce rates (where on earth doesn't these days unless it is legally difficult and people just don't sign the paper), and women entering adult entertainment / prostitution etc. It is not that different from the rest of the world.

They tend to put up a polite appearance and fake a good day in front of others (my Japanese teacher's word, not mine), so to not bother you especially the foreigners. It is hard to tell who is in financial trouble and who is well educated by grooming. You may just see a difference between Osaka people vs non Osaka people instead. The non-Osaka people tend to dress very similar regardless of social status, and if you wear something with large brand logos like Polo you would be considered either childish or show off, and have to apologize for it even if it is a family gift from another wealthy family member.

Another long time in Japan friend of mine told me that you won't know the true personality of a Japanese until he / she is drunk. Then they pretend nothing happen the day after the hang over. I wouldn't always assume the person I am talking to is always doing well, they also may try to "convince" you and you may interpret it as a "if you prefer but I wish you instead" instead of a "don't you dare do this". We got a cat cafe owner told us why we can't rent a kitten with a 5 min explanation instead of a "no he is too young". Talking about trying his best not to make us feel upset.
 
Sheesh, what is going on with these gangs. I like this gangs working for the people system. Maybe let them slide with some underground gambling, harmless stuff, no drugs, like the old style Italian mafia, as long as they take care of the riff-raff.
You are just romanizing the old style mafia. In every society as long as things people want are illegal there will be a criminal system to abuse it. If they are legal the financial sector will abuse it.

A lot of Kobe residents reluctantly accept help from Yakuza because the government support was lacking after the Kobe earthquake, then they "owe Yakuza a favor" later. I don't think people in general like "owing criminals a favor" regardless of where in the world they are in.
 
I love that Singapore has the cane system even for graffiti. It is a good compromise between the free for all US and the "cut of the hands if you are caught stealing" in Tunisia.

The penal code in Tunisia is fairly severe but they certainly don't cut hands off, you'd need to go to Iran and perhaps only one or two other countries that have a very strict Islamic code for that to happen. My impression of Tunisian people was they were fundamentally honest and not honest out of fear of reprisals if caught. Police presence was essentially non existent where we were in Djerba. Decent honest people and nothing like the extremists in charge of Iran. We shouldn't tar all of Islam with the same brush just because Iran and Afghanistan are run by terrorist regimes.
 
Most of those bikes look to be not worth stealing. Is anyone in Japan so hard-up and poor that they would risk it?

It's also important to crack down on the ways that stolen stuff gets converted to cash. These are usually fairly rich people working on the edge between legitimate business and organized crime.
 
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