Yes, the upcoming 4680 should comfortably exceed that.Do they have the "million mile" battery in use now or planned/in development?
I hear this question a lot, but I almost never hear anyone ask about million mile engines or transmissions.
Yes, the upcoming 4680 should comfortably exceed that.Do they have the "million mile" battery in use now or planned/in development?
Most early EV owners lease them due to fear of battery deterioration and future model improvement dragging down residual value. The manufacturers lost the money leasing them, and it is wise to lease a new one or buy a Tesla in the end vs buying the older EVs at least end.Aren't many owners dumping their cars because of the inconvenience of charging on the road?
The new Leaves are still air cooled battery, still junk.The number of EVs being turned in for ICE cars was about 20%, or 1 in 5. These are primarily the early EVs with lousy range, not Teslas.
The first gen Nissan Leaf had less than 80 mile range. And the battery rapidly degraded. Od course, the newer ones are far better.
My understanding regarding the charging issue, was people who lived in apartments, etc, who could not charge at home.
Elon built the charging network early on. It continues to expand world wide. How else can these cars be viable?
Batteries are like springs, they can dump power rapidly. The AWD setup ensures good traction, and the motor controls ensure no tire slip. Kind of hard to beat that.Are there any petrol powered sedans capable of 0-60 in 3.2 that get 310 miles per tank? I can't think of any off the top of my head.
The better question is how many years will they last. Dendrites (tree-like spikes) form during charging AND over time in all Lithium batteries. There are promising technologies that hope to prevent dendrite growth, Tesla cells are among the worlds best with regard to chemistry, geometry and lifespan. Even so, cycle life is just one factor. And as of today, nobody has solved the dendrite problem.How many miles are the current Tesla batteries designed for?
I suppose it depends on the duration of the trip. On very long trips (say 6+ hours) that would require you to make a stop for food. You could hopefully time it so that the car recharges while you are grabbing something to eat.Sooooo as amazing as that Tesla is, it is really slow on long trips.
The problem is that I don't need something to eat every 2.5 hours. Furthermore, the destination charge can be painful, as it might be near an hour to get enough charge to prevent 2 charge stops on the return.I suppose it depends on the duration of the trip. On very long trips (say 6+ hours) that would require you to make a stop for food you could hopefully time it so that the car recharges while you are grabbing something to eat.
That is the only reason I don't own one. I'd put up with the highway trip charging delays, knowing that charging at home saves me from the pump twice a week. It's not a wash, but it's not as much of a waste of time as it would otherwise be.the only thing I find incredible is a $64,000 price tag for what is usually a less than $30,000 car (but slower).
I suppose it depends on the duration of the trip. On very long trips (say 6+ hours) that would require you to make a stop for food. You could hopefully time it so that the car recharges while you are grabbing something to eat.
I used to make such trip and only stop once for about 15-20 mins. Bathroom break, gas stop, cup of coffee, stretch, rotate drivers, then off I go.The duration and a host fo other factors. One being - how you normally take a 6 hour trip, and what the charging infrastructure is like on the route.
I'n my case 465 in each direction - It doesn't alter my time by enough to matter I usually stop 2-3 times for food and to take a bio break
Some guys never stop and charge through, some guys routes have few chargers. Some guys tow or carry.
One size doenst come close to fitting all here.
This is what I’ve been saying…. They’re phenomenal daily drivers, but I wouldn’t really want to take one on a long road trip. Our next vehicle will likely be an EV simply because my wife doesn’t drive that far being a stay at home mom, probably a F-150 Lightning so I can back feed it into my house when we lose power, and for longer trips we’d still have a gas car…. Or BITOG’s favorite response of “just rent one.”It is why most "family" or "rich single guy" should really have at least 1 gas car / SUV that covers the non daily commute. You can get a 20mpg SUV that tow and go forever, and use it 3 times a year with horrible mpg and nobody would care. Some problems should be solved by owning 2 cars instead of one jack of all trade monster golf cart. So, stop trying to make Model 3 what it isn't and compare it against what it should not be.
Don't MOST people or at least families own more than one car? I mean, most people own more than one pair of shoes, more than one TV, more than one computer, etc.Some problems should be solved by owning 2 cars instead of one jack of all trade monster golf cart.
In the suburb for sure.Don't MOST people or at least families own more than one car? I mean, most people own more than one pair of shoes, more than one TV, more than one computer, etc.
All the EV owners I know have more than 1 car. I sure as heck do...Don't MOST people or at least families own more than one car? I mean, most people own more than one pair of shoes, more than one TV, more than one computer, etc.
Exactly this. And no other car maker, or electic utility is putting any money into the infrastructure. So in the end, electric cars fail to deliver the convenience of ICE vehicles.How else can these cars be viable?