The new gas station is open.

2.73 over here. When will cross border makeshift gas stations start to pop up? They already figured out how to get around federal limits by making fuel cell trailers.
When I lived in Charlotte NC the gas in South Carolina was always 20-30 cents cheaper, so there were several gas stations right over the state line where everyone made sure to go. Charlotte is essentially right on the South Carolina border - a ever growing suburbia keeps spreading into South Carolina anyway.

South Carolina also had lottery long before North Carolina, so you went to get lottery tickets and fill your tank.
 
The Jones act doesn't affect West Coast prices, because it Only applies to trade between US ports. Its fairly unlikely you would ship fuel by ship from say Los Angeles to Seattle. Normally if this was to be an ongoing thing they would build a pipeline. Your shipping Oil/refined products from places like Canada and the Persian Gulf, so the Jones act doesn't apply - any ship can bring it.

I think the disaster with the bridge in Maryland shows why foreign flagged ships in US waters are a bad idea. Taxpayer is on the hook to replace the bridge. Lots of talk about why the Jones act is bad lately - I think its just more globalist fearmongering.
All I know is China builds ships as quickly as the U.S. makes a MTV music video.

I would prefer U.S. have the capacity, demand, and market to build ships at the same rate as both our allies and adversaries build ships.

I found it surprising this (see video) newly completed offshore oil rig is built in South Korea and transported to the North Atlantic. Why are western nations not shipbuilding at the same rate as Asia???

 
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All I know is China builds ships as quickly as the U.S. makes a MTV music video.

I would prefer U.S. have the capacity, demand, and market to build ships at the same rate as both our allies and adversaries.

I found it surprising this (see video) newly completed offshore oil rig is built in South Korea and transported to the North Atlantic. Why are western nations not shipbuilding at the same rate as Asia???


Because we have outsourced our productive capacity to benefit the banking system. Everyone knows this - am I missing something in your question?

Yes, we need to bring this back home. Seems like most people would rather have cheep goods at wal-mart rather than productive capacity.

If anything the Jones act is the last bastion of shipping protection - at least on the ownership side.
 
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Out my way a whole convenience-store chain with fuel pumps, Royal Farms, is famous for its fried chicken. They're all over the Eastern Shore and have spread into central Virginia.

When someone says "gas-station fried chicken", I think many here imagine an old-school gas station that worked on cars and might have had just soda and snack vending machines. Those stations are mostly gone, replaced by convenience stores that sell actual hot food as well as fuel. That's where the jokes about "gas-station sushi" came from.
 
I was in Los Angeles last week in the Little Tokyo neighborhood, down the street from the Amtrak Union Station. There was a Chevron station there with regular at 7.699 mid grade 7.799, and premium 7.899. As a Vermonter, I found these prices atmospheric, but also was surprised how small the spread was between grades.

The station was pretty large, but did not seem to sell much gasoline.
I know the exact station you are speaking of. It's always crazy expensive. I have heard it is used heavily by the local government, so they really take advantage of that. It's not well-liked: https://maps.app.goo.gl/o9JEmMsLwwJCPrQZ8

P.S. I had never heard of gas station fried chicken until reading this thread.
 
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I know the exact station you are speaking of. It's always crazy expensive. I have heard it is used heavily by the local government, so they really take advantage of that. It's not well-liked: https://maps.app.goo.gl/o9JEmMsLwwJCPrQZ8

P.S. I had never heard of gas station fried chicken until reading this thread.

Here in Florida they sell it but not in the upscale areas, usually lower income areas.
 
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Here in Florida they sell it but not in the upscale areas, usually lower income areas.
I think there is a slight there somewhere, but I am too un-sophisticated to to catch it :ROFLMAO:

I have been to a few Florida gas stations serving fresh Cuban sandwiches and coffee. Mostly in out of the way parts of Florida. No fried chicken, must have been the good end of town.
 
We're back up to $2.69 at the Kroger I use, up from $2.35 a couple months ago. We always have anywhere from 70c to $1 gallon discount and only have to fill once a month.
 
I was in Los Angeles last week in the Little Tokyo neighborhood, down the street from the Amtrak Union Station. There was a Chevron station there with regular at 7.699 mid grade 7.799, and premium 7.899. As a Vermonter, I found these prices atmospheric, but also was surprised how small the spread was between grades.

The station was pretty large, but did not seem to sell much gasoline.

That neighborhood is a perfect storm for high gas prices.
 
A quarter century ago in the insurance business I had a client who was an engineer for Texaco. We talked a lot and at that time there was 10 cents a gallon spread among each of the 3 grades. He told me the only difference was the amount of additives in each, the base fuel being identical. The extra additives were 1/2 cent. So premium was one cent more to Texaco and 20 cents more at the pump.
 
As of 2023, California produces about 25% of its own oil, 15% comes from Alaska and 60 % is imported. The largest amount is from the Middle East, but the Exxon Mobil Guyana discovery has recently contributed and also oil from Canada’s Trans Mountain pipeline which came on in 2024. Currently half of the output from the Transmountain line goes to California and Washington State and the other half to Asia, mostly to China. Any US tariffs coming in March will play into China’s hands as they may take the other half as well, thank you very much.
 
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We have a new and very fancy station no more than 1/2 mile from the house, 8-10 pumps, big c-store. It has been finished for a few months but still not open for business. Pumps and signage have Exxon red/white colors but no logos or anything. And name above the doors is Super Rancho.
 
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