Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
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I can assure you, if you can link to it and understand it, I certainly can.
..and this I surely do not doubt...
...but this begs the question as to why one would have a dismissive blanket disposition and not one of intense revealing interest?
While you may possess more qualified firepower, you (and many who appear more intent on appearing to be agnostics in the debate) seem to merely shrug it off as "Ho-hum.. ..this has all happened before and it will happen again (YAWN). I'll just shuffle along on my current path and just sip ice tea on my Adirondack chair and not worry about it" (
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That is, if I had such a level of enlightenment, I would surely be intensely interested in determining if this was a pending natural event ..or some progressive state that was being influenced by our activities.
Yet you appear disinterested in that determination and tend to discount those that find it anything but naturally occurring.
This doe not communicate an unbiased disposition and is transparent with those who share the disposition without any of your savvy and informed firepower. I mean, it's not like you're Bruce or Molakule and the rest of the scientific community are people who still believe that 5w30 is thinner @ -30 and thicker @ 100C. These are people whose brain pans are pretty impressive. Can they be wrong? Sure they can. Can you? Absolutely. Just what gives you your "depth of conviction"?
This is what I seek to understand.
I don't think that you would approach a cliff that you can see, and not, at least, attempt to buckle your seatbelt ..make global preparation a global issue ..yet there is none of that in your rhetoric. If anything, it's exactly the opposite.
It just doesn't add up. Whether or not this is a naturally occurring event ..or one that is a result of our activities, the effects are serious and will require substantial alterations to our behaviors either in our influence on the environment ..or to survive the naturally occurring changes to it.
Gary, I don't claim to be unbiased about this. I'm not sure I'm dissmissive of the information about this isssue either since I do have a pretty strong opinion about it. But for sure, I don't have the religious fervor about it that some have. And I certainly won't be trying to convert many to my views.
No mission work for me. The food's bad, the pay's worse, and the natives as often as not kill you...
Now I still try to read as much as I can about it and consider the data, the sources, etc. But so far I've just not seen anything yet to make me change my mind about it.
In simple terms, I think anthropogenic global warming, or as it's being called this week, "global climate change", is fiction.
Given that, what could I do to prevent it? Since I don't think it exists the answer is obvious - Nothing.
Now I could post dozens of links that over the years have helped me draw that conclusion and we could talk about the agendas of the true believers, the absurd things that the climate models and temperature measuring techniques produce etc, etc. But we both know that I won't be changing anyone's mind. Given that IMO the argument has become more religious than scientific, it's accepted by me that I won't covert anyone to my faith
Yes, I could be wrong. And honestly, if I am I'll admit it and change my evil ways. But so far, I don't think so. My only fear about it is that the mob of true believers will take away any number of my personal freedoms in an attempt to exorcise their demons.
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Regardless of the origin, we are heading toward a situation that will make much of our current way of life very difficult if not impossible. I'm not talking about driving SUV's around if our wallet is thick enough. I'm talking about providing current and future levels of sustenance for the globe.
Outside of some "Omen" like clandestine "movement" (an apocalyptic death wish = just one of those Magnum P.I. little voices talking ) ..there's no reason not to take this very seriously.
I agree with your post above by 1/2. I do think we're heading for some changes mostly driven by economics. But I don't think they're cataclysmic. And I also don't think the folks in the US will be the ones to suffer the worst. Not by a long shot.
Like all other times, the wealthy do the best when times are hard. And no matter what the gloom and doomers say we're still a very rich country with a large population and a good number of resources. When push comes to shove we'll use what we have and no one will care if oil rigs and windmills offshore spoil their pristine view.
Fact is, the vast majority of the world population would do almost anything to live like the poorest in the US. And we're seeing exactly that.
So while some keep warning us that we need to revert back, and live as Chinese peasants to avoid some day of reckoning, the Chinese and many others are working their butts off so they don't have to live as Chinese peasants anymore.
That Puritan ethic or whatever drives it that's labeled Americans fat and wasteful just doesn't seem to have taken there. Or maybe they don't have the time or energy for it. They're too busy scrambling for cars and cell phones. Or for the majority, the things we take for granted like food and electricity and clean running water.
That's my thoughts on it. And the reasons it seems to bother me less than many if not most. I'm probably not 100% correct but I'm confident I'm 100% wrong either. Much like everyone else's opinions I suppose...
), guess that settles it. 
