Condemn? Sure. File a lawsuit over alleged damages, no so sure.
Texas sues GM for selling driving data to insurance comps
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Then why not sue Texas dealerships instead of GM? <Sarcasm as well all know that won't happen>
The federal government has neglected to offer any privacy rights to consumers regarding this new digital information. They would rather use it for their own purposes with things like Geofencing warrants and warrantless data searches.
Do I really care or have something to hide. Unlikely. But that isn't the point.
So the States are left to fend for themselves. You can call it grandstanding if you want, but they gave the State the reason.
So we will end up with more laws, and maybe 50 different laws, and the "capitalists" will cry foul and were being oppressed. Except they brought it on themselves.
Maybe GM should endevour to make a profit selling cars rather than selling your data? Utopian idea, I understand.
4WD
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That’s ridiculous … Get over yourself …
Because making such an important function even available for the dealers to enable is willful neglect. The dealer is likely indemnified in this case by their franchise agreement anyway. If not they will be sued eventually. However since they did not design the system its a much higher barrier to prove.
Again, your trying to make this about Texas Grandstanding. Maybe it is. But if you don't want to be a target - the old adage of play stupid games, win stupid prizes applies here.
4WD
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Talk about the fox and henhouse - frankly I’m disappointed that Texas singles out GM with hundreds engaged -
Jeff said it best …
I was held over a barrel on lexisnexis enrollment when I bought my Volt, I refused to accept the agreement and they wouldn’t sell me the car unless I hit yes on the tablet, didn’t even get a physical copy of the horrifying agreement.
Far as I know first born son agreements where you are required to sign for something under duress are illegal
Sort of like the South Park episode made real life where a Disney plus subscription you can only agree to makes it so Disney can do anything they want to you and you can’t sue them for perpetuaty .
You should have walked. I know, much easier said than done.
I needed a car and the price was a fire sale give away.
Sadly the increased insurance rate I pay now more than washed away any monetary savings I had then.
3 drivers 5 cars - $650/yr all in
Now 1 driver $3500 liability and the driving record is actually better.
I can only comment on Toyota, because its the only one I own with a DCM.
When I bought the car, to enable all the remote features, I was required to register to Toyota Connect. Required a name, email, etc. they already had all my data once I logged in, presumably from the dealer. I had to then accept all their qualifiers if I wanted to make the system work. I forget which I declined but I did decline one of them originally. Everything else worked. I did eventually accept that one - I think it was required for the remote start? Anyway, it was as clear as day as to what I was signing, unlike GM.
So I don't think there all equally guilty. Maybe this is why Toyota gets a pass on engines that blow up and no one wants a GM anymore?
How else can you change these practices then? Unless you think it’s perfectly acceptable for corporations to get away with exploitation like this.
4WD
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none of that is remotely unique as the lawsuit pretends - I might back his boss - but would happily see this AG (and 90% of them) do better things for all of us …
I fear we have not valued or protected privacy as we should have. The price for that is really yet to be paid. Hope I'm wrong.
Well, enlighten me. What other manufacturers allow the dealer to sign you up for their tracking software and then the OEM sells that data to insurance?
GM has admitted to it in public - so there an easy target. If others have done it - I am happy if there added.
I don't disagree with @JeffKeryk , but that doesn't make it right.
4WD
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So what - legal procedures in America are a disgrace …
Why don’t you post one of many articles about Toyota on this?
Jeff is right and not in your rabbit hole this time …
4WD
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You are not wrong - but from 2015 onwards GM is a just peanut in this game …
The insurance companies should have told people and let them decide to enroll for discount instead of jacking up rate in secret. This way people would be discouraged of dangerous driving habits instead of feeling cheated. If I am a good driver, I would like to get a discount and not subsidize for my alcoholic neighbor.
I have no idea what your rambling about - sorry.
That if you not paying for the product you are the product? I agree with that - but I think everyone paid for their GM car?
If you think consumer protections and right to privacy are not worthwhile, I suppose thats your prerogative. And trust me, I am under no illusion that any exist currently, and probably ever will. Still doesn't make it right.
4WD
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Okay, I’m rambling - see you later superstar …
