Test drove a Jeep Grand Wagoneer with the high output 3.0L twin turbo
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Lets keep perspective, though. $100k is the new $50k. You think I jest, but go anywhere. To buy a burger. To get groceries. To fuel up.$107k?! I lost interest right there. While I think the I6 turbo is a great idea I will never be able to wrap my mind around paying that kind of money for any vehicle EVER.
Now consider that this is for unimproved product. That burger isnt bigger or better than 5 years ago. Neither are the apples or milk jugs. The fuel pump isn't measuring more in your favor.
Vehicles, however, are massively better.
Look. Its an alternative to a minivan, and no bridge is to far, when you view it that way.
$107,000 for a lot more vehicle...seems like a bargain actually.
I always wondered if thats how suv owners thought. "Im buying by the cubic foot!"
The price appears high and guessing $30-45k profit margin there, people buy them and see some around. They priced it right.
In my opinion they did price it right.
Jeeps also have a high used resale price.
An employee of mine sold her 6 year old jeep for 90% of what she paid for it new. She bought another jeep wrangler, but this time its a rubicon 2 door. Her last wrangler was a lesser model, and 4 doors. She wanted something better offroad, now that she has joined the offroad club. Wow is she having fun with it. Put some nice bumpers and a winch on it recently as well.
Jeep and Ram have so much potential but execution falls flat - FIAT and Stellantis haven’t done them any favors with their penny pinching. Their designers are top notch and if they could only make vehicles that weren’t crap I’d seriously consider buying one.
I've owned several and none were "crap".
LOL
Yup...they still make crap.
Such a well thought out, detailed, articulate and helpful reply. I'll be sure to take that under advisement for future vehicle purchases.
Look...I'm not going to change your mind and I don't care to but this is my opinion based on several real-world data points. Don't get me wrong...there are much worse-made vehicles.Such a well thought out, detailed, articulate and helpful reply. I'll be sure to take that under advisement for future vehicle purchases.
I have real world experience as an owner of several. What's your experience?
My brother, several staff, and my best friend to a total of about 10 Jeeps/Rams. I have an intimate day-to-day knowledge of their many woes.
Oh and retired business partner...has the death wobble on his Jeep Wrangle that is still not fixed, electrical bugs, and paint bubbling and peeling. He has owned Jeeps for the past 30 years and still has a CJ and even he has said this is his last Jeep.
Ahh, the old my friend's brother's old roommate once knew someone that worked with someone who...
No...Literally, people I see every day or know really well. I have "lived" through many of their issues with them. I've even driven them to the Jeep dealership to pick up their ride. As I said, carry on, you like Jeeps, cool, you do you, and I don't really care. I own a Kia, obviously, it isn't all about reliability, and many times people buy vehicles for different reasons.
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