Tesla might have driven itself into a building

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Originally Posted By: yahoo.com
Say what you will about the smart features of Tesla cars, but it’s clear that either some people don’t understand how they’re supposed to work, or the software is not to be trusted. Mind you, self-driving cars aren’t legal yet, which is why Tesla’s driverless car features are still in beta. This is the reason why. A new Tesla accident is being blamed on the car's smarts going wrong. This time around, a Model X accelerated into a building while the owner was parking it. Driverless cars gone rogue, or the owner struggling with left pedal vs right pedal?
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“The acceleration was uncontrollable, seemed maximum, and the car only stopped because it hit the building and caused massive damage to the building.” He later added that “the car was being driven and slowly being parked when it uncontrollably accelerated.” Tesla keeps detailed logs of each car that can be valuable in such incidents, as a recent accident revealed, so it’s likely the company will be able to explain what went wrong. It’s unclear at this time what caused the accident, and whether it was human error. The driver clearly believes that the car misbehaved. Either way, Tesla should explain these types of accidents when they occur. Otherwise, it’ll have a huge problem on its hands.
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/brand-tesla-model-x-might-driven-itself-building-152056032.html
Originally Posted By: bgr.com
Driver crashes brand-new Tesla Model X, blames Tesla A new Tesla accident is being blamed on the car’s smarts going wrong. This time around, a Model X accelerated into a building while the owner was parking it. Driverless cars gone rogue, or the owner struggling with left pedal vs right pedal? Update 4:45: According to Tesla’s logs, the accident was entirely the fault of the driver, who pressed the accelerator and drove into the building. Full statement below.
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Update: Electrek has a statement from Tesla, which claims to have examined the logs and found the driver to be at fault: “We analyzed the vehicle logs which confirm that this Model X was operating correctly under manual control and was never in Autopilot or cruise control at the time of the incident or in the minutes before. Data shows that the vehicle was traveling at 6 mph when the accelerator pedal was abruptly increased to 100%. Consistent with the driver’s actions, the vehicle applied torque and accelerated as instructed. Safety is the top priority at Tesla and we engineer and build our cars with this foremost in mind. We are pleased that the driver is ok and ask our customers to exercise safe behavior when using our vehicles."
http://bgr.com/2016/06/06/tesla-model-x-parking-crash/ It is possible that the brake and gas pedals are at the same plane and close to one another, such that the driver thought that he/she stepped on the brake but actually stepped on the gas pedal instead.
 
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Your thread title is wrong. The content you posted clearly states that the driver was at fault. This is what your thread title should say: Driver crashes his/her Tesla into a building
 
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Tesla should sue the [censored] for defamation. I seriously doubt the car just floored itself into the side of a building. Moron driver trying to take the blame off himself.
 

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Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
Your thread title is wrong. The content you posted clearly states that the driver was at fault. This is what your thread title should say: Driver crashes his/her Tesla into a building
The actual title on Yahoo.com was "A brand-new Tesla Model X might have driven itself into a building" It was too long so I delete "A brand-new" and "Model" to fit the allowed space. This is to show that the press did sometime exaggerate a little, they like to have a dramatic title to extract readers.
 
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Old people hit the gas instead of the brake with ALARMING frequency, and every old person with a Toyota has been blaming the car ever since the "unintended acceleration" thing started. Now we are in the era where people who 1) don't understand cars 2) don't understand computers 3) don't understand "opinion" vs "fact" will be blaming their cars for every mishap.
 
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Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR
The actual title on Yahoo.com was "A brand-new Tesla Model X might have driven itself into a building"
Yeah sure, blame it on the other author. . .
 

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Originally Posted By: Rand
click-baity title OP does this frequently.
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR
The actual title on Yahoo.com was "A brand-new Tesla Model X might have driven itself into a building"
Yeah sure, blame it on the other author. . .
The title of first link in the original post just as I post above. You can click on that link to see for yourself. I didn't make up a title and posted it here.
 
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Originally Posted By: Pop_Rivit
The Tesla didn't drive itself into a building, the logs show the driver drove it into the building, and then lied about it. The Driver was Lying
I wonder if it's just a matter of time when one will drive itself into a building..........lol
 
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How come we don't doubt the sensor which tells the pedal position? Why not a glitch in the sensor reading which computer interpreted and *logged* as full throttle? (I know the answer but it is a valid question for a layman to ask)
 
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Originally Posted By: Vikas
How come we don't doubt the sensor which tells the pedal position? Why not a glitch in the sensor reading which computer interpreted and *logged* as full throttle? (I know the answer but it is a valid question for a layman to ask)
The throttle pedal sensor is likely 2 or 3 sensors that have to co-witness or the thing will poop a error code.
 
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Originally Posted By: Ethan1
Old people hit the gas instead of the brake with ALARMING frequency, and every old person with a Toyota has been blaming the car ever since the "unintended acceleration" thing started. Now we are in the era where people who 1) don't understand cars 2) don't understand computers 3) don't understand "opinion" vs "fact" will be blaming their cars for every mishap.
Toyota drivers? By far the most dangerous object on the road, including decaying bridges, potholes size of space shuttle etc. Drivers of these new Subarus are not far behind. I think you can argue they took over title from Buick drivers.
 
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First, it is something when a manufacturer's cars have an accident it makes news. This is the second time someone has wrecked a Tesla and claimed an autopilot/cruise control fault. Both times the PCM showed full manual control, and accelerator pedal was pressed by the driver. Tesla black boxes are good. Accelerator pedal sensors are at least double redundant (even Toyotas). Fly by wire throttles were/are a huge liability concern, and preventative measures were taken. People panic, and make mistakes. We had a service writer take a unit through a wall on the service drive right into the finance office. An argument could be made about divine causation on that one. Another time one of our porters was pulling a car around and decided he wanted to play pinball with everything in the finish lot. He took out four vehicles besides the one he was driving. It was epic.
 
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Originally Posted By: punisher
First, it is something when a manufacturer's cars have an accident it makes news. This is the second time someone has wrecked a Tesla and claimed an autopilot/cruise control fault. Both times the PCM showed full manual control, and accelerator pedal was pressed by the driver. Tesla black boxes are good. Accelerator pedal sensors are at least double redundant (even Toyotas). Fly by wire throttles were/are a huge liability concern, and preventative measures were taken. People panic, and make mistakes. We had a service writer take a unit through a wall on the service drive right into the finance office. An argument could be made about divine causation on that one. Another time one of our porters was pulling a car around and decided he wanted to play pinball with everything in the finish lot. He took out four vehicles besides the one he was driving. It was epic.
You have to be careful here. Use some thinking skills and ask yourself, "where does the black box data come from?" As the articles state, the black box data is not pulled from the box itself but from Tesla HQ. I'm not saying Tesla IS producing altered or faked black box data but the integrity of the data MUST be questioned given the source and Tesla/Musk's corrupt history. They have no reason to turn over self incriminating data and editing text files takes about 30 seconds.
 
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Originally Posted By: edyvw
Originally Posted By: Ethan1
Old people hit the gas instead of the brake with ALARMING frequency, and every old person with a Toyota has been blaming the car ever since the "unintended acceleration" thing started. Now we are in the era where people who 1) don't understand cars 2) don't understand computers 3) don't understand "opinion" vs "fact" will be blaming their cars for every mishap.
Toyota drivers? By far the most dangerous object on the road, including decaying bridges, potholes size of space shuttle etc. Drivers of these new Subarus are not far behind. I think you can argue they took over title from Buick drivers.
Glittering generalizations ^ .
 

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Originally Posted By: punisher
First, it is something when a manufacturer's cars have an accident it makes news. This is the second time someone has wrecked a Tesla and claimed an autopilot/cruise control fault. Both times the PCM showed full manual control, and accelerator pedal was pressed by the driver. Tesla black boxes are good. Accelerator pedal sensors are at least double redundant (even Toyotas). Fly by wire throttles were/are a huge liability concern, and preventative measures were taken. People panic, and make mistakes. We had a service writer take a unit through a wall on the service drive right into the finance office. An argument could be made about divine causation on that one. Another time one of our porters was pulling a car around and decided he wanted to play pinball with everything in the finish lot. He took out four vehicles besides the one he was driving. It was epic.
Originally Posted By: badtlc
You have to be careful here. Use some thinking skills and ask yourself, "where does the black box data come from?" As the articles state, the black box data is not pulled from the box itself but from Tesla HQ. I'm not saying Tesla IS producing altered or faked black box data but the integrity of the data MUST be questioned given the source and Tesla/Musk's corrupt history. They have no reason to turn over self incriminating data and editing text files takes about 30 seconds.
Do you have any supporting document or data or anything that points to corruption of Tesla and/or Musk ? When you are accusing some entity or person corruption you should have some concrete data to support your claim.
 
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