Talk abouit the end of CFL light bulbs...

[Jarlaxle]

Originally Posted By: Triple_Se7en
Exactly! People here boast about about saving 50 cents per month on a porch light that was switched over to LEDs, then leave the LED light on all day.



I had 2 driveway lights on duck-to-dawn timers... Ihad been replacing regular (actually, long-life) bulbs every 6-8 months. The CFLs I used lasted ten years & used exactly one third the electricity, for MORE light.

 

[exranger06]

I don't understand the point of leaving lights on when nobody is using them, no matter how much/little electricity they consume. Even after my whole house is converted to LED, I will still continue to turn them on only when I need the light, and turn them off as soon as I don't.

 

[Trav]

I didn't read the whole thread but i changed to all led bulbs last year. I don't like the idea of mercury coming out of the CFL's if they happen to break.
I like the 100w equivalent flood lights, outside in 0f weather they come right on not sitting there dim for a while.

 

[Wolf359]

Originally Posted By: exranger06
I don't understand the point of leaving lights on when nobody is using them, no matter how much/little electricity they consume. Even after my whole house is converted to LED, I will still continue to turn them on only when I need the light, and turn them off as soon as I don't.


It's hard to understand what people are thinking or doing when they fall for conspiracy theories and do things that make no logical sense.

 

[hatt]

Originally Posted By: exranger06
I don't understand the point of leaving lights on when nobody is using them, no matter how much/little electricity they consume. Even after my whole house is converted to LED, I will still continue to turn them on only when I need the light, and turn them off as soon as I don't.
If you have energy efficient lights it makes no sense to closely police them. Just relax, enjoy the light and fork over the extra dollar when the electric bill comes.

 

[exranger06]

Originally Posted By: hatt
Originally Posted By: exranger06
I don't understand the point of leaving lights on when nobody is using them, no matter how much/little electricity they consume. Even after my whole house is converted to LED, I will still continue to turn them on only when I need the light, and turn them off as soon as I don't.
If you have energy efficient lights it makes no sense to closely police them. Just relax, enjoy the light and fork over the extra dollar when the electric bill comes.

I'm not talking about closely policing them. I'm talking about turning the light off as you're walking out of the room, not turning them on during the day when you already have plenty of sunlight, not running them all night long when you're asleep. Basic stuff that are no-brainers to implement.

 

[CT8]

Originally Posted By: exranger06
Originally Posted By: hatt
Originally Posted By: exranger06
I don't understand the point of leaving lights on when nobody is using them, no matter how much/little electricity they consume. Even after my whole house is converted to LED, I will still continue to turn them on only when I need the light, and turn them off as soon as I don't.
If you have energy efficient lights it makes no sense to closely police them. Just relax, enjoy the light and fork over the extra dollar when the electric bill comes.

I'm not talking about closely policing them. I'm talking about turning the light off as you're walking out of the room, not turning them on during the day when you already have plenty of sunlight, not running them all night long when you're asleep. Basic stuff that are no-brainers to implement.
Common sense is in short supply these days.

 

[SHOZ]

I went to all LEDs with a buy from Home Depot at $2 each. Before with the incandescent I could practically heat my home if I turned on all the lights and the wind wasn't blowing out.....

 

[hatt]

I always turn off the lights at night and when I leave lol. I'm thinking about starting to leave them all on when I go off. If jut one greenie loses sleep it'll be worth the $1-2/month.

 

[Triple_Se7en]

Home Depot wants $9.97 for a single 3watt LED in 25 watt equivalency. I can get two CFLs for that price and they last just as long.

 

[SHOZ]

Originally Posted By: Triple_Se7en
Home Depot want $9.97 for a single 3watt LED in 25 watt equivalency. I can get two CFLs for that price.
Got my Home Depot 60w equivalent for $5 each with free shipping. They are even cheaper now, they are around $3 ea.

http://www.homedepot.com/b/Search/N-5yc1vZbm79/Ntk-Extended/Ntt-60w%2Bled?Ntx=mode+matchpartialmax&NCNI-5

 

[Wolf359]

Originally Posted By: SHOZ
Originally Posted By: Triple_Se7en
Home Depot want $9.97 for a single 3watt LED in 25 watt equivalency. I can get two CFLs for that price.
Got my Home Depot 60w equivalent for $5 each with free shipping. They are even cheaper now, they are around $3 ea.

http://www.homedepot.com/b/Search/N-5yc1vZbm79/Ntk-Extended/Ntt-60w%2Bled?Ntx=mode+matchpartialmax&NCNI-5


You can get a 6 pack for $12 now so that works out to about $2 a bulb for a 60 watt equivalent.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Feit-Electric...321&cj=true

My local Walmart has them for $1.88 and they're dimmable. But that's with a local utility discount.

I can get CFL's for 50 cents a bulb at the local surplus store.

 

[rslifkin]

Most CFLs are [censored] in my experience, for color rendering if nothing else. For some lights, I spend the $$$ for good LED bulbs. The rest get halogens, as I'm not willing to live with awful color rendering to save a few cents on power.

 

[HTSS_TR]

Originally Posted By: rslifkin
Most CFLs are [censored] in my experience, for color rendering if nothing else. For some lights, I spend the $$$ for good LED bulbs. The rest get halogens, as I'm not willing to live with awful color rendering to save a few cents on power.

Probably your eyes and brain are better than mine, I couldn't tell the difference of color rendering between the two.

The LED bulbs I have are a little whiter, I like both colors, I don't hate either one.

So far to my thinking, the only advantage of LED bulbs is instant on.

 

[MolaKule]

This from Physics Today is germane to this topic.

The incandescent light emitter may not be dead after all.

An incandescent light has been developed by MIT researches in which a planar filament is deposited on a transparent substrate.

Surrounding the filament are two slabs which are coated with common oxides.

These coated slabs reflect the IR back to the filament to "reheat" it (via IR radiation) but pass the visible light spectrum.

The efficacy of the design (ratio of visible light-flux to consumed power) can be as high as 270 lumens/Watt, depending on the type and number of oxide layers.

270 lumens/Watt surpasses that of the best commercial lights.

 

[KD0AXS]

Originally Posted By: Wolf359
Originally Posted By: SHOZ
Originally Posted By: Triple_Se7en
Home Depot want $9.97 for a single 3watt LED in 25 watt equivalency. I can get two CFLs for that price.
Got my Home Depot 60w equivalent for $5 each with free shipping. They are even cheaper now, they are around $3 ea.

http://www.homedepot.com/b/Search/N-5yc1vZbm79/Ntk-Extended/Ntt-60w%2Bled?Ntx=mode+matchpartialmax&NCNI-5


You can get a 6 pack for $12 now so that works out to about $2 a bulb for a 60 watt equivalent.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Feit-Electric...321&cj=true

My local Walmart has them for $1.88 and they're dimmable. But that's with a local utility discount.

I can get CFL's for 50 cents a bulb at the local surplus store.


What if you don't want 60W equivalent bulbs? I mentioned this earlier in the thread as well. The 60W equivalent bulbs are cheap, but lower wattage bulbs are still expensive. The light fixture over our dining room table has 5 bulbs. We don't need the equivalent of 300W in our faces while we eat dinner. I took out 4 of the 5 bulbs and set the dimmer to the lowest setting, and it's still almost too bright. The lower wattage LEDs still all seem to be $10+ a bulb.

 

[dishdude]

I just ordered a 4 pack of 25w equivalents off Amazon for $14.99.

The 40w/60w equivalent bulbs are very cheap at Lowes and Home Depot, as low as $1.50 a bulb and that is without a subsidy.

 

[Wolf359]

Originally Posted By: KD0AXS
Originally Posted By: Wolf359
Originally Posted By: SHOZ
Originally Posted By: Triple_Se7en
Home Depot want $9.97 for a single 3watt LED in 25 watt equivalency. I can get two CFLs for that price.
Got my Home Depot 60w equivalent for $5 each with free shipping. They are even cheaper now, they are around $3 ea.

http://www.homedepot.com/b/Search/N-5yc1vZbm79/Ntk-Extended/Ntt-60w%2Bled?Ntx=mode+matchpartialmax&NCNI-5


You can get a 6 pack for $12 now so that works out to about $2 a bulb for a 60 watt equivalent.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Feit-Electric...321&cj=true

My local Walmart has them for $1.88 and they're dimmable. But that's with a local utility discount.

I can get CFL's for 50 cents a bulb at the local surplus store.


What if you don't want 60W equivalent bulbs? I mentioned this earlier in the thread as well. The 60W equivalent bulbs are cheap, but lower wattage bulbs are still expensive. The light fixture over our dining room table has 5 bulbs. We don't need the equivalent of 300W in our faces while we eat dinner. I took out 4 of the 5 bulbs and set the dimmer to the lowest setting, and it's still almost too bright. The lower wattage LEDs still all seem to be $10+ a bulb.


So you basically have one 60 watt bulb at the lowest setting on your dimmer and it's too bright? You are probably then at the equivalent of 10 watts worth of light. You may want to see a doctor as it sounds like you've got some kind of disease and no light bulb will be able to help you. If not, turn the lights up, being able to see your food while you eat tells your brain that you are full and you might eat less.

 

[KD0AXS]

Originally Posted By: Wolf359
Originally Posted By: KD0AXS


What if you don't want 60W equivalent bulbs? I mentioned this earlier in the thread as well. The 60W equivalent bulbs are cheap, but lower wattage bulbs are still expensive. The light fixture over our dining room table has 5 bulbs. We don't need the equivalent of 300W in our faces while we eat dinner. I took out 4 of the 5 bulbs and set the dimmer to the lowest setting, and it's still almost too bright. The lower wattage LEDs still all seem to be $10+ a bulb.


So you basically have one 60 watt bulb at the lowest setting on your dimmer and it's too bright? You are probably then at the equivalent of 10 watts worth of light. You may want to see a doctor as it sounds like you've got some kind of disease and no light bulb will be able to help you. If not, turn the lights up, being able to see your food while you eat tells your brain that you are full and you might eat less.


No, I'm not crazy. This is one 60W equivalent dimmable LED with the dimmer as low as it goes. A regular incandescent bulb goes much dimmer when you turn it down.

 

[dishdude]

You need dimmable LED bulbs and a special LED dimmer to be able to properly dim LEDs.