Taking over maint. on a '96 Voyager

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I have a friend who is going through some hard times. So I'll be picking up the maintenance on a '96 Plymouth Voyager. It has a 3.0L V6 - I think this is a Mitsu engine? Under 100K miles, but I'm not sure what the exact mileage is on the vehicle.

So - what do I need to know?

Currently there seems to be a weeping oil leak from the front valve cover gasket.

Thanks for your help, folks!
Michael
 
Cheap to maintain. My 92 appeared to truly need 3m/3k OCI ..seemed to drink it after that ..still not all that much. Others do not report this condition. Air filter elements are cheap $3-6 mostly.

You can do your friend a real favor and change his transmission fluid. The autos are the weak component in the DC minivan.

going further?

Check his rotors/pads. If they're thin ..but haven't warped are scored the rotors yet ..swap them out early (as low as $16 for the pads) to give him at least 25k of trouble free braking. The rear brakes on mine lasted well over 140k.

The brake pads the the front tires appear to have about the same life expectancy. 30-35k ..at least in my experience.

Unless he's got some combustion chamber issues ..I'm on my 3rd or 4th set of plugs in 165k ..so that may be something you can let alone.

How much more do you want to afford your friend in the form of selfless charity??
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Replace both valve cover gaskets (common problem - source of most oil leaks). You can get them from fel-pro under $15 I think. Use high temp RTV sealant on the curves of the valve cover.

I quit using bosch platinum plugs in favor of equal heat range copper ngk, since the platinum won't go 100K (like it said in the brochure). I see no need for the extra cost, esp. if you keep up with other maint. they will go 30k no prob, all for far less $.

Transmission is a weak point, make sure filter and fluid are changed regularly. The pan gasket on the bottom from the factory is weak, which increases the chance that it will fail and you will lose all fluid while driving. You'll start to notice that the trans. will shift roughly or not shift out of gear at all when low on fluid.

If you have drums on the rear, make sure it stays clean and the emergency brake is in good condition. They tend to rust/freeze which is annoying, as you will have to rock the vehicle back and forth pretty hard to break it loose. I had to get a tow truck to drag my van to unstick the emergency brake.

Paint is weak, but you probably already knew that. If it starts to peel or looks thin, spray it with something after you clean the area with mineral spirits. Color match spray paint works well. If you find rust, it's too late.

Give the air filter and breather element a good look over, since it will get sprayed/soaked with oil if the breather system (which is located in the same airbox) is clogged.

I have no idea where the PCV is, but I'd reccomend checking that too.

Wheel bearings are cheap, before you rotate the tires, rock them back and forth (or side to side) to check for wear (while the wheels are off the ground of course).

Orig. shocks are of very low quality parts. You can expect them to need replacement at less than 60k miles. Good replacements should tighten up the handling and improve the ride. They aren't too complicated to replace yourself since the work area is large.

The jack is of poor quality. You can expect to get one or two changes out of it before it fails.

The fuel filter is located on the right side under the sliding door, it's a pain to remove/replace. It should be done about this time. Purolator sells a decent version.

Timing belt, acessory belts, and water pump/thermostat should be changed if they haven't already.

Head gasket problems should be anticipated. Mine had a defective one from the factory. Coolant had oil in it and the overflow had an oily coating that no one could explain.

Rear window wiper motor should be looked at. Early versions had a wiring defect where it would cause the SRS light (airbag) to illuminate and was expensive to fix (even though it should have been covered under warranty).

A/C system uses cheap seals and hardware. Either replace them or use a cheap sealant (the kind that comes with the refrigerant in a can).

The sliding door handle is a pain sometimes. The locking and lever mechanism seems to not respond sometimes and othertimes work fine. If you find this to be the case, open it up and replace it.

The rear liftgate should have had the rear impact latch recall done (I believe it should from the factory), if not, have it done (unless you don't drive it - then i wouldn't worry about it).

Other than general maint. items like lubricating the hinges and all that, they are somewhat reliable.
 
Thanks for the feedback, guys.

What is the proper oil viscosity for this engine? What is the correct transmission fluid?

Sadly, there is no owner's manual or maintenance manual.
 
I had a '96 Caravan.. 3.0 Mitsubishi engine, 3-spd auto trans. Over 100K without any engine or trans trouble.

No longer here, but looking at a Haynes manual....

Shows 5w30 oil at all temps, 10w30 above 0 degrees F.

Trans, it says ATF+3, and that is what I used. I still have some.
Newer recommendation may be to use ATF+4. I know Chrysler backwards recommends that for most, not all ATF+... trans.

I couldn't quickly find all the details on that particular TSB, but you should be able to with just a little searching effort. Main thing is ATF+3 or ATF+4, not Dexron.
 
I had a '96 Caravan.. 3.0 Mitsubishi engine, 3-spd auto trans. Over 100K without any engine or trans trouble.

No longer here, but looking at a Haynes manual....

Shows 5w30 oil at all temps, 10w30 above 0 degrees F.

Trans, it says ATF+3, and that is what I used. I still have some.
Newer recommendation may be to use ATF+4. I know Chrysler backwards recommends that for most, not all ATF+... trans.

I couldn't quickly find all the details on that particular TSB, but you should be able to with just a little searching effort. Main thing is ATF+3 or ATF+4, not Dexron.
 
Sorry for the "single topic" questions -

How much of each? (oil and transmission)

What kind of power steering fluid?

What is the fuel tank capacity?

(again, I have no owner's manual - neither does the owner)

And, Gary, thanks - I am willing to go a bit farther to minimize the drain of this vehicle on this family. They are members of our "Life Group" (small group) at church.
 
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Timing belt, acessory belts, and water pump/thermostat should be changed if they haven't already.

Aside from the themostat and accessory belt ..this runs pretty high on the $$$. I would say that IF the waterpump needs replacing you should do the timing belt while you're there.

OEM shocks must have really gone downhill since my model year. Mine had 135k on them before I replaced them. I would go for premium replacements since I found the OEM hard to beat for durability. It's the same with the accessory belts. I got over 80k out of the factory original ..but replacements, even the NAPA EXPENSSIVE ONE didn't break 20k before it needed replacement.

I have my original valve cover gaskets and pan gasket @ 165k+ (timing belt/water pump too) Pan removal requires enough extra work to make engine removal a viable alternative. Starter and a trans mount have to be removed as well as other items ..or so I have been told.

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Pulling the oil pan on a 3.0L is a relatively "big deal". It requires removing the starter, front motor mount bracket/motor mount, (it's actually easier to pull the entire assembly) and both support braces that go to the transmission. Replacing the oil pump requires dismantling the front of the engine. Might as well do a water pump and timing belt if you go this far.


I'm not even going to attempt this myself (all of it) ..and I'm not anxious to spend about $1000 toward this preemptive move. I'm not going to pay twice for the water pump and timing belt labor ...this is going to add a couple of hundred bucks to the timing belt replacemnt.

This is in no way shape or form .."normal" maintenance.
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Michael, that's really nice of you to help out a friend like that.

For the transmission, I've seen the TSB for the fluid and it says all Chrysler minivans still use ATF+3, not the newer, more expensive ATF+4. I read somewhere on the internet on how to fix the oil leaking/burning problems really easily but it's been a while. It sounds like a good candidate for some Auto-RX.

I think this powersteering pump uses power steering fluid. If it does, use Valvoline Synpower PS Fluid.

The other thing, change the wipers, both front and rear. If the headlight bulbs haven't been changed , change them (go online and order Philips VisionPlus bulbs, email me at [email protected] for more info) and if he headlights are yellowed, take some Mother's Mag and Wheel Cleaner and rub it on the headlights. It should take off some of the yellow film. This will ensure the safety of the family. I gotta run for now. That's awesome that your are doing this for this family.
 
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