Synlube MSDS

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: captain_kirk
overkill, Explain how all the so called tests and approved products you mention(name brand oil)are sludging up engines all over the country??

Why all the class action lawsuits regarding sludge with all the oils you hold in such high esteem(name brand). The courts don't lie. The recalls and service bulletins don't lie.

Do you always trust corporate american'/big oil this much??


Until I see your product; the SAME product available to ME as a consumer, being run in the 24hrs of Lemans, passing a 1.2 million Km fleet test in 500HP Detroit Diesel engines using 100,000Km drain intervals through the Australian outback (those results are on this board, and were performed, using Mobil Delvac 1 by a member here) then yes, I will remain sceptical.

Sludge? Consumers running too long on conventional oil, poor engine design (Toyota, Chrysler...etc) in regards to oil flow and drain-back (hence Toyota's class action lawsuit and recall).

Do not confuse me as an advocate for conventional oils; I am not. I am a firm believer in running extended drains of reasonable intervals with a quality synthetic. This is very much the way the European market seems to work; synthetic oil run at extended intervals and it appears to work well.

I DO trust Mobil because I trust the PROCESS that their product goes through. I also seek out and use their highest GRADE products as well; their 0w40, which likely has more approvals than any other oil on earth, and their Delvac 1 5w40, because of the testing that has been done on it and the results that testing yielded.

If you can provide similar tear-down results, in a fleet environment with high mileage, run by a third party, I think you would receive a much warmer welcome. As I said, Delvac 1, Mobil's flagship product HAS been represented in this manner ON this board BY a third party.

 

[Mystic]

Captain_kirk, if all of this information you talk about exists (information from the AAA, FTC, the government, EPA, various archives, etc., then how come you do not put some of this proof in your posts or at least tell people where to look for all of these documents? If there is a VOA that you know about somewhere on the internet why don't you either tell us where to find it, or post information about that VOA here at bitgo?

If you have a case, you should be able to attack the message and not the messenger. If you keep verbally abusing people here at this website this post will get locked up and perhaps you will get yourself banned from the website.

Without screaming at people here, are you able to provide some sort of documentation about Synlube? This is a SIMPLE QUESTION. Are you able to answer that question in a polite and decent manner? You notice how I am not screaming at you.

If NASA used Synlube and in documentation stated that Synlube was a wonderful product, post the documentation or at least let people here know where to look. Are you able to do that?

People have had a difficult time here even trying to find Synlube. Where is it? If there is a Synlube facility somewhere it should be possible to locate that facility on a map if people are given proper map directions.

You are getting nowhere fast by just continuing to tell people to use Synlube because YOU (a person unknown to us) have found it to be a wonderful product. That song has gotten old.

You are pushing the use of Synlube here captain_kirk. You encourage people here to use it constantly. People here want solid evidence to use a product.

I have not screamed at you. I have talked to you politely. Can you communicate with people here politely?

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: captain_kirk
Overkill, I have stated earlier. Why are all the so calld name brand oils sludging up engines all across america? Google it! Why all the sludge class action lawsuits??

You can't deny this!! It's fact. Google it!!


Hold on a second here. You want ME to GOOGLE your "facts" about sludge, yet condemned XS650 earlier, claiming he plagiarized Wikipedia... another on-line source for information. How can you condemn and condone in the same hand?

If the information is credible, you should be able to link me to it directly, without Google being a necessary step. I can link you to Mobil's datasheets right now for example, no Google required.

I can find all sorts of interesting facts on Google. The earth is flat, Jesus walks among us, life on this planet is going to end on a specific day, Marilyn Manson is the anti-[censored]...etc. Just because I find it on Google doesn't make it factual. In fact it is a good idea to view anything found through a random Google search with a healthy degree of scepticism unless it is from a reputable source. And if that is the case, then one shouldn't need to use Google to find it.

 

[demarpaint]

Big point being missed here by the Synlube people. They need to prove the product works, that's their job not ours. All I see is a lot of "Rope a Dope" here.

When the Synlube people can prove their product is in fact as good as they say it is we'll listen, until then, keep up with the lies and [censored]. I'm not the only one finding these threads entertaining.

 

[c3po]

Synlube has been playing the Smoking Mirrors Game since 2004, but there game is about to come to an end on here and Noria.

 

[Mystic]

I can't deny that it has been fun. Unless and until these Synlube people can demonstrate that Synlube has some value I would not touch the stuff-I would not put the stuff in the engine of the car of my worse enemy.

And I don't think conventional motor oils are sludging up all the engines in America and the world. A quality conventional motor oil of correct viscosity and given reasonable OCIs can make a good quality engine in a car or truck last for a very long time. There have been a few sludge prone engines.

The Synlube people have to prove THEIR case. I don't have to prove their case for them. And I certainly will not risk the engine in my car by testing Synlube myself to see if it is any good or not. That would be illogical, as Spock would say. Synlube would not buy me a new engine for my car.

 

[daves87rs]

Wow....still going?


I gave up on proof pages ago.....

 

[Trajan]

Ah, now OverK1ll is the target du jour.

I'm somewhat at a loss here. Just what am I suppossed to prove?
I'm not selling anything. Anyone who's read my posts know just how I feel on oil. (MFG approved.)

And why is my profile an issue? I don't know why he fixates on it? Ah well, everyone needs a hobby.

Ok, now I will reveal for one and all who I am.

I was born 500 years ago in the Highlands of Scotland. I am Immortal. And I am not alone.

Now is the time of The Gathering. When the stroke of a sword and the fall of a head will release the power of the Quickening.

In the end, there can be only one.

And I aim to be that one.

 

[captain_kirk]

Originally Posted By: Mystic
Captain_kirk, if all of this information you talk about exists (information from the AAA, FTC, the government, EPA, various archives, etc., then how come you do not put some of this proof in your posts or at least tell people where to look for all of these documents? If there is a VOA that you know about somewhere on the internet why don't you either tell us where to find it, or post information about that VOA here at bitgo?

If you have a case, you should be able to attack the message and not the messenger. If you keep verbally abusing people here at this website this post will get locked up and perhaps you will get yourself banned from the website.

Without screaming at people here, are you able to provide some sort of documentation about Synlube? This is a SIMPLE QUESTION. Are you able to answer that question in a polite and decent manner? You notice how I am not screaming at you.

If NASA used Synlube and in documentation stated that Synlube was a wonderful product, post the documentation or at least let people here know where to look. Are you able to do that?

People have had a difficult time here even trying to find Synlube. Where is it? If there is a Synlube facility somewhere it should be possible to locate that facility on a map if people are given proper map directions.

You are getting nowhere fast by just continuing to tell people to use Synlube because YOU (a person unknown to us) have found it to be a wonderful product. That song has gotten old.

You are pushing the use of Synlube here captain_kirk. You encourage people here to use it constantly. People here want solid evidence to use a product.

I have not screamed at you. I have talked to you politely. Can you communicate with people here politely?


Where have I screamed at people!!! Show me one of my SCREAMS!!

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: Trajan
Ah, now OverK1ll is the target du jour.

I'm somewhat at a loss here. Just what am I suppossed to prove?
I'm not selling anything. Anyone who's read my posts know just how I feel on oil. (MFG approved.)

And why is my profile an issue? I don't know why he fixates on it? Ah well, everyone needs a hobby.

Ok, now I will reveal for one and all who I am.

I was born 500 years ago in the Highlands of Scotland. I am Immortal. And I am not alone.

Now is the time of The Gathering. When the stroke of a sword and the fall of a head will release the power of the Quickening.

In the end, there can be only one.

And I aim to be that one.

 

[c3po]

Stay Tuned Everyone, because the Synlube Soap Opera will only get BETTER and more ENTERTAINING.

 

[captain_kirk]

Originally Posted By: Mystic
I can't deny that it has been fun. Unless and until these Synlube people can demonstrate that Synlube has some value I would not touch the stuff-I would not put the stuff in the engine of the car of my worse enemy.

And I don't think conventional motor oils are sludging up all the engines in America and the world. A quality conventional motor oil of correct viscosity and given reasonable OCIs can make a good quality engine in a car or truck last for a very long time. There have been a few sludge prone engines.

The Synlube people have to prove THEIR case. I don't have to prove their case for them. And I certainly will not risk the engine in my car by testing Synlube myself to see if it is any good or not. That would be illogical, as Spock would say. Synlube would not buy me a new engine for my car.


A few sludge prone engines??? Wow. I can see you never bothered to google the sludge facts on the net. It's epimemic! Google it! It's a major issue. You ignore this.

 

[Mystic]

Well, captain_kirk, I don't know how to tell you this-but you just now screamed at people. Is that how you communicate with everybody?

 

[captain_kirk]

Originally Posted By: Mystic
Well, captain_kirk, I don't know how to tell you this-but you just now screamed at people. Is that how you communicate with everybody?


Maybe your hearing is just too sensative!! Might want to check it out!!

 

[Mystic]

That is Trajan? I am impressed. And Ankhmatt was accusing Trajan and me as being the same person? No way I can match Trajan if that is him.

 

[captain_kirk]

Originally Posted By: Trajan
Ah, now OverK1ll is the target du jour.

I'm somewhat at a loss here. Just what am I suppossed to prove?
I'm not selling anything. Anyone who's read my posts know just how I feel on oil. (MFG approved.)

And why is my profile an issue? I don't know why he fixates on it? Ah well, everyone needs a hobby.

Ok, now I will reveal for one and all who I am.

I was born 500 years ago in the Highlands of Scotland. I am Immortal. And I am not alone.

Now is the time of The Gathering. When the stroke of a sword and the fall of a head will release the power of the Quickening.

In the end, there can be only one.

And I aim to be that one.



Thanks, NOW I KNOW WHAT I AM DEALING WITH!!!! THAT SAYS IT ALL!!! YOU JUST SHOWED ALL OF THE WORLD WHO YOU ARE,...FANTASTIC!! NICE JOB! ENOUGH SAID ON THAT NOTE!!

 

[Mystic]

Well captain_kirk, you need to be able to understand sarcasm.

 

[c3po]

Captain Kirk, trust me, you have no idea what is coming, you are totally out numbered, you picked a fight that you cannot win.

 

[Mystic]

I have given up on trying to get you to communicate with people here in a polite and decent manner, captain_kirk. But you have indeed picked a fight you cannot win. The more you insult people, attack people, refuse to produce any documentation to prove your case that Synlube is the wonderful product you claim it is, the less support you have here.

It is an easy comparison between your behavior and the behavior of other posters here.

 

[Audi Junkie]

EVEN IF SynLube worked as advertised, what's the point anyway?

No cost benefits, no ease of service since you have to change filters, just a big fat expensive risk that is sure to NOT pay-off.