MSDS interpretation on this oil?

[mikep]

I know enough to know that I don't have a clue when it comes to MSDS interpretations. Anyone care to comment on this;

http://www.docs.citgo.com/msds_pi/464342.pdf

Citgo Superguard 5w-20. Is there anyway to tell from this msds if this oil is a GII, GII+, synth blend or just a POS? The product data sheet can be found here;

http://www.citgo.com/Products/LubesOils/CITGOBrand/CITGOBrandEngineOil.jsp

Any comments are appreciated.

 

[yannis]

It must be GII , but you better wait for G-MAN II, he is the MSDS expert .

[ June 22, 2004, 11:15 AM: Message edited by: yannis ]

 

[G-MAN]

64742-54-7 is the CAS # for Group II, II+, or III. 64741-88-4 is the CAS # for Group I.

This oil is probably Group II+ with up to 10% Group I.

 

[G-MAN]

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Originally posted by TallPaul:
G-man II. Which do you think it better of the following oils? I am thinking that the Durablend 10w40 is a superior product being mostly comprised of Group II and better. Thanks.

Valvoline Durablend 10w40
64742-54-7: 74-84%

Valvoline Durablend 15w40
64742-54-7: 23-33%
64742-65-0: 51-61%

Valvoline Maxlife 10w40
68037-01-4: 12-22%
64742-65-0: 64-74%

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In the case of Durablend, the 74-84% should be Group III.

If I HAD to use Valvoline, I'd probably choose the Durablend since it offers the best bang for the buck.

 

[MolaKule]

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Valvoline Maxlife 10w40
68037-01-4: 12-22%
64742-65-0: 64-74%

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Hey, this one is a Blend with approx. 15% PAO. The PAO is used as a Pour-Point Depressor and to improve the Viscosity Index.

 

[TallPaul]

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Originally posted by MolaKule:

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Valvoline Maxlife 10w40
68037-01-4: 12-22%
64742-65-0: 64-74%

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Hey, this one is a Blend with approx. 15% PAO. The PAO is used as a Pour-Point Depressor and to improve the Viscosity Index.

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So I could run one quart of M1 with my Maxlife and really beef it up for winter.

But what about the 64-74% that apparently is Group I?

I think I might make my own hi mile oil with the 5 quarts 10w40 Durablend and a quart of Mobil PAO.

 

[Motorbike]

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Originally posted by G-Man II:

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Originally posted by TallPaul:
G-man II. Which do you think it better of the following oils? I am thinking that the Durablend 10w40 is a superior product being mostly comprised of Group II and better. Thanks.

Valvoline Durablend 10w40
64742-54-7: 74-84%

Valvoline Durablend 15w40
64742-54-7: 23-33%
64742-65-0: 51-61%

Valvoline Maxlife 10w40
68037-01-4: 12-22%
64742-65-0: 64-74%

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In the case of Durablend, the 74-84% should be Group III.

If I HAD to use Valvoline, I'd probably choose the Durablend since it offers the best bang for the buck.

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Blends need be profit makers too and since the CAS #'s are the same for group II/III here , when speaking of the Valvoline base oils I would doubt seriously that the posted 74-84% of the Durablend is group III in reality . More like 30% max IMO .

BTW ,the CAS Number 64742-54-7 is not the only CASR number for hydrotreated or hydrockracked stocks anylonger . There are more .

 

[G-MAN]

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Originally posted by Motorbike:
BTW ,the CAS Number 64742-54-7 is not the only CASR number for hydrotreated or hydrockracked stocks anylonger . There are more .

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What are they?

 

[TallPaul]

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Originally posted by Motorbike:
Blends need be profit makers too and since the CAS #'s are the same for group II/III here , when speaking of the Valvoline base oils I would doubt seriously that the posted 74-84% of the Durablend is group III in reality . More like 30% max IMO.

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Right. Valvoline techs say all the Durablend grades are the same--about 30% synthetic. The rest of the 10w40 must be Gp II, which is a whole lot better than the 15w40's Gp I. Hey, I saw a case of the Durablend 10w40 in SJ at the store the other day.

 

[TallPaul]

G-man II. Which do you think it better of the following oils? I am thinking that the Durablend 10w40 is a superior product being mostly comprised of Group II and better. Thanks.

Valvoline Durablend 10w40
64742-54-7: 74-84%

Valvoline Durablend 15w40
64742-54-7: 23-33%
64742-65-0: 51-61%

Valvoline Maxlife 10w40
68037-01-4: 12-22%
64742-65-0: 64-74%