So Miro, how about that sample for a VOA?
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Originally Posted By: endeavor to persevere
Originally Posted By: captain_kirk
Originally Posted By: endeavor to persevere
Since you are the one pushing this mystery concoction, why don't you post some of these documents for us to read. you do a lot of typing but you never post any real provable facts....
This is a forum. Go find your own facts!! I did!!
Then quit trying to push this garbage down our throats. So far there have been absolutely no reasons to look for any facts We don't want a mystery product.
I am not pushing anything. Your are the one pushing!! I am glad you just admitted to not bothering to find any facts. Thank you for your candor!!
Now we know why you don't know the facts....you just told is that you/we choose to remain ignorant...you just said so above for the world to see.
If you choose to remain factless by choice....what is your issue? Why hang around??
Originally Posted By: captain_kirk
Originally Posted By: endeavor to persevere
Since you are the one pushing this mystery concoction, why don't you post some of these documents for us to read. you do a lot of typing but you never post any real provable facts....
This is a forum. Go find your own facts!! I did!!
Then quit trying to push this garbage down our throats. So far there have been absolutely no reasons to look for any facts We don't want a mystery product.
I am not pushing anything. Your are the one pushing!! I am glad you just admitted to not bothering to find any facts. Thank you for your candor!!
Now we know why you don't know the facts....you just told is that you/we choose to remain ignorant...you just said so above for the world to see.
If you choose to remain factless by choice....what is your issue? Why hang around??
here you go...
Originally Posted By: endeavor to persevere
here you go...
Is that you???
here you go...
Is that you???
Originally Posted By: captain_kirk
Originally Posted By: virtual
He would't know,a 10 year old kid, could hack the site find the couple last credit card number used and well.....let you guess the rest. In these day and age credit fraud and stolen identities append on daily basis ,how can you trust a company who do not even care enough about is customer to provide a basic line of defense against these?
10 year old kid??? Are you refering to someone on this site? Some of the posts here show you might be right about the age!! I challenge any of you to prove it has been done,..since it is so easy as you state...a 10 year old could do it.
Well,...let's see the proof! My credit cards have never been hacked anywhere,synlube included.
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/securit...00326-r1bk.html
For someone who is screaming at us to find out the facts you claim exsist, you FAIL at doing it yourself.
Originally Posted By: virtual
He would't know,a 10 year old kid, could hack the site find the couple last credit card number used and well.....let you guess the rest. In these day and age credit fraud and stolen identities append on daily basis ,how can you trust a company who do not even care enough about is customer to provide a basic line of defense against these?
10 year old kid??? Are you refering to someone on this site? Some of the posts here show you might be right about the age!! I challenge any of you to prove it has been done,..since it is so easy as you state...a 10 year old could do it.
Well,...let's see the proof! My credit cards have never been hacked anywhere,synlube included.
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/securit...00326-r1bk.html
For someone who is screaming at us to find out the facts you claim exsist, you FAIL at doing it yourself.
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No but it may be you.......
Originally Posted By: Trajan
Originally Posted By: XS650
Originally Posted By: captain_kirk
Crude oil is "craked",creating all the idividual components,one of them lubrication oil. It's a distillation process in a sense. The fuel is the GOLD..NOT LUBE OIL. The more fuel we consume,the more crude is cracked,....the more lube oil. etc.etc.
Crack is what whoever told you that was smoking.
Cracking and distillation are different processes. Distillation is a separating of different volatility components and cracking is the converting of heavier components into lighter components.
I think he is smoking it, the way his posts are going.
Trajen, I notice how you never came through on manning up!! I expected that!!
Originally Posted By: XS650
Originally Posted By: captain_kirk
Crude oil is "craked",creating all the idividual components,one of them lubrication oil. It's a distillation process in a sense. The fuel is the GOLD..NOT LUBE OIL. The more fuel we consume,the more crude is cracked,....the more lube oil. etc.etc.
Crack is what whoever told you that was smoking.
Cracking and distillation are different processes. Distillation is a separating of different volatility components and cracking is the converting of heavier components into lighter components.
I think he is smoking it, the way his posts are going.
Trajen, I notice how you never came through on manning up!! I expected that!!
Originally Posted By: JeffGoji
So Miro, how about that sample for a VOA?
I have not made it widely known but I purchased 1 quart specificly for VOA testing. Samples will be sent out next week when I return from the work related trip I am on through the end of the week.
So Miro, how about that sample for a VOA?
I have not made it widely known but I purchased 1 quart specificly for VOA testing. Samples will be sent out next week when I return from the work related trip I am on through the end of the week.
Originally Posted By: captain_kirk
Originally Posted By: Trajan
If you're going to be an infomercial, why don't you man up and become a site sponsor.
If you are that concerned for the planet, why are you driving?
No one cares why you use it. But rather why you think everyone here is suppossed to fall for this extraordinary nonsense that we have yet to see any extraordinary facts to back it.
Not facts from an obsolete site. But facts from labs/tribologists/users that are actually respected here.
You STILL haven't come up with that VOA you insist is out there.
Trajen,..why don't you man up!!!!.. and admit who you are like I did on both sites!! We can meet just off the base where I work and you can see for yourself your precious proof!! Bring a top-sider if you dare!! I say you won't. The ball is now in your court!! This is where we separte the men from the boys!!!
Many are called...but few are choosen!!
And just who am I? Besides a seeker of verifiable facts. On which you fall short. Just what am I supposed to admit? I'm not the one pushing product. Or making outrageous claims.
That would be................... wait for it................... you.
Originally Posted By: Trajan
If you're going to be an infomercial, why don't you man up and become a site sponsor.
If you are that concerned for the planet, why are you driving?
No one cares why you use it. But rather why you think everyone here is suppossed to fall for this extraordinary nonsense that we have yet to see any extraordinary facts to back it.
Not facts from an obsolete site. But facts from labs/tribologists/users that are actually respected here.
You STILL haven't come up with that VOA you insist is out there.
Trajen,..why don't you man up!!!!.. and admit who you are like I did on both sites!! We can meet just off the base where I work and you can see for yourself your precious proof!! Bring a top-sider if you dare!! I say you won't. The ball is now in your court!! This is where we separte the men from the boys!!!
Many are called...but few are choosen!!
And just who am I? Besides a seeker of verifiable facts. On which you fall short. Just what am I supposed to admit? I'm not the one pushing product. Or making outrageous claims.
That would be................... wait for it................... you.
Originally Posted By: HWEaton
OMG, he is still here with absolutely NO PROOf, no VOA, no UOA, nothing. Nothing but running his neck.
The proof I speak of is all over the net and the court rooms. YOU choose to ignore it!!
OMG, he is still here with absolutely NO PROOf, no VOA, no UOA, nothing. Nothing but running his neck.
The proof I speak of is all over the net and the court rooms. YOU choose to ignore it!!
Originally Posted By: captain_kirk
Originally Posted By: HWEaton
OMG, he is still here with absolutely NO PROOf, no VOA, no UOA, nothing. Nothing but running his neck.
The proof I speak of is all over the net and the court rooms. YOU choose to ignore it!!
And yet you don't produce it.
Originally Posted By: HWEaton
OMG, he is still here with absolutely NO PROOf, no VOA, no UOA, nothing. Nothing but running his neck.
The proof I speak of is all over the net and the court rooms. YOU choose to ignore it!!
And yet you don't produce it.
The only thing this thread holds is a small amount of entertainment value.
Some one would have to be brain damaged to buy this synlube product. And the truth is I do know the facts, thats why I'm not falling for this scam....
Some one would have to be brain damaged to buy this synlube product. And the truth is I do know the facts, thats why I'm not falling for this scam....
Originally Posted By: Trajan
Originally Posted By: captain_kirk
Originally Posted By: Trajan
If you're going to be an infomercial, why don't you man up and become a site sponsor.
If you are that concerned for the planet, why are you driving?
No one cares why you use it. But rather why you think everyone here is suppossed to fall for this extraordinary nonsense that we have yet to see any extraordinary facts to back it.
Not facts from an obsolete site. But facts from labs/tribologists/users that are actually respected here.
You STILL haven't come up with that VOA you insist is out there.
Trajen,..why don't you man up!!!!.. and admit who you are like I did on both sites!! We can meet just off the base where I work and you can see for yourself your precious proof!! Bring a top-sider if you dare!! I say you won't. The ball is now in your court!! This is where we separte the men from the boys!!!
Many are called...but few are choosen!!
And just who am I? Besides a seeker of verifiable facts. On which you fall short. Just what am I supposed to admit? I'm not the one pushing product. Or making outrageous claims.
That would be................... wait for it................... you.
Trajen.....Thank you for aknowledging you are not anyone!! You hide in the shadows! Your posts or lack of verify this fact. The ball remains in your court for one last chance.
So far,you are the one proving to be nobody!! You run like a frightend cat from all my challenges. Why should we listen to nobody!! You sir, are a fake!! An aberration!! A ghost!!
I have proven and given the challenge that I am somebody...somebody using sylube. I have stepped up to the plate!! Any takers on my offer of seeing me and my vehicles in the flesh and metal?? Anyonw else willing to step up to the plate??
I bet the answer is no! Skeptics have no spine!!
Originally Posted By: captain_kirk
Originally Posted By: Trajan
If you're going to be an infomercial, why don't you man up and become a site sponsor.
If you are that concerned for the planet, why are you driving?
No one cares why you use it. But rather why you think everyone here is suppossed to fall for this extraordinary nonsense that we have yet to see any extraordinary facts to back it.
Not facts from an obsolete site. But facts from labs/tribologists/users that are actually respected here.
You STILL haven't come up with that VOA you insist is out there.
Trajen,..why don't you man up!!!!.. and admit who you are like I did on both sites!! We can meet just off the base where I work and you can see for yourself your precious proof!! Bring a top-sider if you dare!! I say you won't. The ball is now in your court!! This is where we separte the men from the boys!!!
Many are called...but few are choosen!!
And just who am I? Besides a seeker of verifiable facts. On which you fall short. Just what am I supposed to admit? I'm not the one pushing product. Or making outrageous claims.
That would be................... wait for it................... you.
Trajen.....Thank you for aknowledging you are not anyone!! You hide in the shadows! Your posts or lack of verify this fact. The ball remains in your court for one last chance.
So far,you are the one proving to be nobody!! You run like a frightend cat from all my challenges. Why should we listen to nobody!! You sir, are a fake!! An aberration!! A ghost!!
I have proven and given the challenge that I am somebody...somebody using sylube. I have stepped up to the plate!! Any takers on my offer of seeing me and my vehicles in the flesh and metal?? Anyonw else willing to step up to the plate??
I bet the answer is no! Skeptics have no spine!!
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Originally Posted By: captain_kirk
Originally Posted By: Trajan
Originally Posted By: XS650
Originally Posted By: captain_kirk
Crude oil is "craked",creating all the idividual components,one of them lubrication oil. It's a distillation process in a sense. The fuel is the GOLD..NOT LUBE OIL. The more fuel we consume,the more crude is cracked,....the more lube oil. etc.etc.
Crack is what whoever told you that was smoking.
Cracking and distillation are different processes. Distillation is a separating of different volatility components and cracking is the converting of heavier components into lighter components.
I think he is smoking it, the way his posts are going.
Trajen, I notice how you never came through on manning up!! I expected that!!
You seem to have conveniently missed replying to XS650's post......
Exxon Mobil, Shell, Castrol, Lubro Moly....etc. They all have one thing your product lacks: INTEGRITY.
I can pick up a bottle of Mobil 1 0w40 and see that it has been TESTED and APPROVED for use in a plethora of high performance applications, from manufacturers all over the world.
Mobil doesn't have to PROVE anything to me because their product has ALREADY been tested and APPROVED by respected bodies in the automotive community.
Synlube.... has not. Some "guy" on a message forum raving about how good this product is, without any sort of PROOF; proof in the form of 3rd party tests, approvals and manufacturer certs.... Does not give this product integrity. And you cannot expect people to simply swallow this.
Playing word games with sceptic forum members who seek that sort of irrefutable proof does nothing but hinder your cause.
Originally Posted By: Trajan
Originally Posted By: XS650
Originally Posted By: captain_kirk
Crude oil is "craked",creating all the idividual components,one of them lubrication oil. It's a distillation process in a sense. The fuel is the GOLD..NOT LUBE OIL. The more fuel we consume,the more crude is cracked,....the more lube oil. etc.etc.
Crack is what whoever told you that was smoking.
Cracking and distillation are different processes. Distillation is a separating of different volatility components and cracking is the converting of heavier components into lighter components.
I think he is smoking it, the way his posts are going.
Trajen, I notice how you never came through on manning up!! I expected that!!
You seem to have conveniently missed replying to XS650's post......
Exxon Mobil, Shell, Castrol, Lubro Moly....etc. They all have one thing your product lacks: INTEGRITY.
I can pick up a bottle of Mobil 1 0w40 and see that it has been TESTED and APPROVED for use in a plethora of high performance applications, from manufacturers all over the world.
Mobil doesn't have to PROVE anything to me because their product has ALREADY been tested and APPROVED by respected bodies in the automotive community.
Synlube.... has not. Some "guy" on a message forum raving about how good this product is, without any sort of PROOF; proof in the form of 3rd party tests, approvals and manufacturer certs.... Does not give this product integrity. And you cannot expect people to simply swallow this.
Playing word games with sceptic forum members who seek that sort of irrefutable proof does nothing but hinder your cause.
Originally Posted By: XS650
Originally Posted By: captain_kirk
Crude oil is "craked",creating all the idividual components,one of them lubrication oil. It's a distillation process in a sense. The fuel is the GOLD..NOT LUBE OIL. The more fuel we consume,the more crude is cracked,....the more lube oil. etc.etc.
Crack is what whoever told you that was smoking.
Cracking and distillation are different processes. Distillation is a separating of different volatility components and cracking is the converting of heavier components into lighter components.
I am fully aware of the process. I never said they were the same..did't you read my post where I stated in-a-sense..trying to keep the post simple. I can see you just looked that up on wiki. Nice little bit of plagiarizing!!
Answer the point I was trying to make if you can. I already know the answer...let's see if you do.
Originally Posted By: captain_kirk
Crude oil is "craked",creating all the idividual components,one of them lubrication oil. It's a distillation process in a sense. The fuel is the GOLD..NOT LUBE OIL. The more fuel we consume,the more crude is cracked,....the more lube oil. etc.etc.
Crack is what whoever told you that was smoking.
Cracking and distillation are different processes. Distillation is a separating of different volatility components and cracking is the converting of heavier components into lighter components.
I am fully aware of the process. I never said they were the same..did't you read my post where I stated in-a-sense..trying to keep the post simple. I can see you just looked that up on wiki. Nice little bit of plagiarizing!!
Answer the point I was trying to make if you can. I already know the answer...let's see if you do.
Originally Posted By: captain_kirk
Originally Posted By: XS650
Originally Posted By: captain_kirk
Crude oil is "craked",creating all the idividual components,one of them lubrication oil. It's a distillation process in a sense. The fuel is the GOLD..NOT LUBE OIL. The more fuel we consume,the more crude is cracked,....the more lube oil. etc.etc.
Crack is what whoever told you that was smoking.
Cracking and distillation are different processes. Distillation is a separating of different volatility components and cracking is the converting of heavier components into lighter components.
I am fully aware of the process. I never said they were the same..did't you read my post where I stated in-a-sense..trying to keep the post simple. I can see you just looked that up on wiki. Nice little bit of plagiarizing!!
Answer the point I was trying to make if you can. I already know the answer...let's see if you do.
In a sense, up is down, although closer than cracking and distillation because up and down are both directions.
I didn't go to Wiki for that info, although there would have been nothing wrong with that. You should check some of your "facts" on Wiki before you further embarrass yourself. Wiki is actually pretty good.
Originally Posted By: XS650
Originally Posted By: captain_kirk
Crude oil is "craked",creating all the idividual components,one of them lubrication oil. It's a distillation process in a sense. The fuel is the GOLD..NOT LUBE OIL. The more fuel we consume,the more crude is cracked,....the more lube oil. etc.etc.
Crack is what whoever told you that was smoking.
Cracking and distillation are different processes. Distillation is a separating of different volatility components and cracking is the converting of heavier components into lighter components.
I am fully aware of the process. I never said they were the same..did't you read my post where I stated in-a-sense..trying to keep the post simple. I can see you just looked that up on wiki. Nice little bit of plagiarizing!!
Answer the point I was trying to make if you can. I already know the answer...let's see if you do.
In a sense, up is down, although closer than cracking and distillation because up and down are both directions.
I didn't go to Wiki for that info, although there would have been nothing wrong with that. You should check some of your "facts" on Wiki before you further embarrass yourself. Wiki is actually pretty good.
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Originally Posted By: captain_kirk
Originally Posted By: Trajan
Originally Posted By: captain_kirk
Originally Posted By: Trajan
If you're going to be an infomercial, why don't you man up and become a site sponsor.
If you are that concerned for the planet, why are you driving?
No one cares why you use it. But rather why you think everyone here is suppossed to fall for this extraordinary nonsense that we have yet to see any extraordinary facts to back it.
Not facts from an obsolete site. But facts from labs/tribologists/users that are actually respected here.
You STILL haven't come up with that VOA you insist is out there.
Trajen,..why don't you man up!!!!.. and admit who you are like I did on both sites!! We can meet just off the base where I work and you can see for yourself your precious proof!! Bring a top-sider if you dare!! I say you won't. The ball is now in your court!! This is where we separte the men from the boys!!!
Many are called...but few are choosen!!
And just who am I? Besides a seeker of verifiable facts. On which you fall short. Just what am I supposed to admit? I'm not the one pushing product. Or making outrageous claims.
That would be................... wait for it................... you.
Trajen.....Thank you for aknowledging you are not anyone!! You hide in the shadows! Your posts or lack of verify this fact. The ball remains in your court for one last chance.
So far,you are the one proving to be nobody!! You run like a frightend cat from all my challenges. Why should we listen to nobody!! You sir, are a fake!! An aberration!! A ghost!!
I have proven and given the challenge that I am somebody...somebody using sylube. I have stepped up to the plate!! Any takers on my offer of seeing me and my vehicles in the flesh and metal?? Anyonw else willing to step up to the plate??
I bet the answer is no! Skeptics have no spine!!
I assume I missed the post of Trajan selling a non-API approved product on a message board that he was asked to provide proof of the performance of via some sort of verifiable means and subsequently failed to do so?
I can show you that I have Mobil 1 in my pan. Do you think Mobil cares and would use me as some sort of example of their product's performance? I don't.
They perform MILLIONS of miles of FLEET TESTING to gauge the performance of their product in ADDITION to the millions spent on testing through various manufacturers to gain their certs and approvals..... Not a couple of vehicles with a few miles on them and somebody's lawnmower.
Originally Posted By: Trajan
Originally Posted By: captain_kirk
Originally Posted By: Trajan
If you're going to be an infomercial, why don't you man up and become a site sponsor.
If you are that concerned for the planet, why are you driving?
No one cares why you use it. But rather why you think everyone here is suppossed to fall for this extraordinary nonsense that we have yet to see any extraordinary facts to back it.
Not facts from an obsolete site. But facts from labs/tribologists/users that are actually respected here.
You STILL haven't come up with that VOA you insist is out there.
Trajen,..why don't you man up!!!!.. and admit who you are like I did on both sites!! We can meet just off the base where I work and you can see for yourself your precious proof!! Bring a top-sider if you dare!! I say you won't. The ball is now in your court!! This is where we separte the men from the boys!!!
Many are called...but few are choosen!!
And just who am I? Besides a seeker of verifiable facts. On which you fall short. Just what am I supposed to admit? I'm not the one pushing product. Or making outrageous claims.
That would be................... wait for it................... you.
Trajen.....Thank you for aknowledging you are not anyone!! You hide in the shadows! Your posts or lack of verify this fact. The ball remains in your court for one last chance.
So far,you are the one proving to be nobody!! You run like a frightend cat from all my challenges. Why should we listen to nobody!! You sir, are a fake!! An aberration!! A ghost!!
I have proven and given the challenge that I am somebody...somebody using sylube. I have stepped up to the plate!! Any takers on my offer of seeing me and my vehicles in the flesh and metal?? Anyonw else willing to step up to the plate??
I bet the answer is no! Skeptics have no spine!!
I assume I missed the post of Trajan selling a non-API approved product on a message board that he was asked to provide proof of the performance of via some sort of verifiable means and subsequently failed to do so?
I can show you that I have Mobil 1 in my pan. Do you think Mobil cares and would use me as some sort of example of their product's performance? I don't.
They perform MILLIONS of miles of FLEET TESTING to gauge the performance of their product in ADDITION to the millions spent on testing through various manufacturers to gain their certs and approvals..... Not a couple of vehicles with a few miles on them and somebody's lawnmower.
overkill, Explain how all the so called tests and approved products you mention(name brand oil)are sludging up engines all over the country??
Why all the class action lawsuits regarding sludge with all the oils you hold in such high esteem(name brand). The courts don't lie. The recalls and service bulletins don't lie.
Do you always trust corporate american'/big oil this much??
Why all the class action lawsuits regarding sludge with all the oils you hold in such high esteem(name brand). The courts don't lie. The recalls and service bulletins don't lie.
Do you always trust corporate american'/big oil this much??
Overkill, I have stated earlier. Why are all the so calld name brand oils sludging up engines all across america? Google it! Why all the sludge class action lawsuits??
You can't deny this!! It's fact. Google it!!
You can't deny this!! It's fact. Google it!!
This takes the old saying.."if you can't dazzle them with brilliance..baffle them with bull pocky" to a new level.
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