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I want to know where is the office,the real address, and why there is no credit card validation on the site? Any bank will tel you to never buy anything from Internet without these accreditation ,if you are a Engineer you obviously know the reason,know the warning are legitimate and should be follow by every credit card user.Why not even paypal or google checkout?
Originally Posted By: virtual
I want to know where is the office,the real address, and why there is no credit card validation on the site? Any bank will tel you to never buy anything from Internet without these accreditation ,if you are a Engineer you obviously know the reason,know the warning are legitimate and should be follow by every credit card user.Why not even paypal or google checkout?
I have never had any credit card issues period,.. almost 10 years and running!!! NOt one person ever has had an issue,...period. IF you are worried,find one actual example. You won't be able to find any because there are none,...period.
I want to know where is the office,the real address, and why there is no credit card validation on the site? Any bank will tel you to never buy anything from Internet without these accreditation ,if you are a Engineer you obviously know the reason,know the warning are legitimate and should be follow by every credit card user.Why not even paypal or google checkout?
I have never had any credit card issues period,.. almost 10 years and running!!! NOt one person ever has had an issue,...period. IF you are worried,find one actual example. You won't be able to find any because there are none,...period.
Originally Posted By: Audi Junkie
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In honour of Earth Day,..synlube would be a great choice because it is a "green product".
Imagine all the used oil everyone is generating with all those oil changes and the damage to the environment it is causing.
THe oil companies make most of their profit on fuel.Jet fuel(JP4),military,diesel,bunker fuel for 200,000 ton ships,gasoline,fuel and more fuel etc. HOw much do they make on motor oil vs fuel? What would they do if we all went say 10,000 miles or more before changing oil. What would they do with all the oil at that point?
The lubricating oil is just a nuisance byproduct that they must market away somehow. Its a dispisal tactic and of course a way to make even bigger profits. That's why they push the 3000 mile oil change. Look it up if you don't believe me. I say we just cleanly burn it to power the grid,and use synthetic.
It's better for the planet!
THat's why I use synlube.
In honour of Earth day, this thread should be locked. to save the electrons for humanity.
In honour of Earth Day,..synlube would be a great choice because it is a "green product".
Imagine all the used oil everyone is generating with all those oil changes and the damage to the environment it is causing.
THe oil companies make most of their profit on fuel.Jet fuel(JP4),military,diesel,bunker fuel for 200,000 ton ships,gasoline,fuel and more fuel etc. HOw much do they make on motor oil vs fuel? What would they do if we all went say 10,000 miles or more before changing oil. What would they do with all the oil at that point?
The lubricating oil is just a nuisance byproduct that they must market away somehow. Its a dispisal tactic and of course a way to make even bigger profits. That's why they push the 3000 mile oil change. Look it up if you don't believe me. I say we just cleanly burn it to power the grid,and use synthetic.
It's better for the planet!
THat's why I use synlube.
If you're going to be an infomercial, why don't you man up and become a site sponsor.
If you are that concerned for the planet, why are you driving?
No one cares why you use it. But rather why you think everyone here is suppossed to fall for this extraordinary nonsense that we have yet to see any extraordinary facts to back it.
Not facts from an obsolete site. But facts from labs/tribologists/users that are actually respected here.
You STILL haven't come up with that VOA you insist is out there.
If you are that concerned for the planet, why are you driving?
No one cares why you use it. But rather why you think everyone here is suppossed to fall for this extraordinary nonsense that we have yet to see any extraordinary facts to back it.
Not facts from an obsolete site. But facts from labs/tribologists/users that are actually respected here.
You STILL haven't come up with that VOA you insist is out there.
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IT dont matter stop trying to run away from that question,even shamwow run on a secure server......So seriously why, its a basic business need and WHERE is the office.
kirk, that's the zaniest post that I've ever read on BITOG, thermostats inclusive.
Think of a normal OCI of say 3,000 miles. A gallon of oil, that will be recycled into stuff, bunker fuel, roads, stuff.
In that 3000 mile OCI, there will be 100 gallons of fuel consumed, i.e. the lubricating oil is maybe a percent of the petroleum consumed by the car in 3,000 miles...It's a trivial amount in comparison to the fuel burnt in doing something, and it, in turn becomes fuel burned anyway.
If lubricating oils are now a byproduct that needs a market, why on Earth do group III prodcts exist, let alone PAO etc that are made to be lubricants ?
And if you think that this "byproduct" can add reasonable power to the grid (and cleanly), you need to do some research yourself.
Any idea how much oil it takes to start a coal burner, let alone provide power from that oil ?
Didn't think so.
Think of a normal OCI of say 3,000 miles. A gallon of oil, that will be recycled into stuff, bunker fuel, roads, stuff.
In that 3000 mile OCI, there will be 100 gallons of fuel consumed, i.e. the lubricating oil is maybe a percent of the petroleum consumed by the car in 3,000 miles...It's a trivial amount in comparison to the fuel burnt in doing something, and it, in turn becomes fuel burned anyway.
If lubricating oils are now a byproduct that needs a market, why on Earth do group III prodcts exist, let alone PAO etc that are made to be lubricants ?
And if you think that this "byproduct" can add reasonable power to the grid (and cleanly), you need to do some research yourself.
Any idea how much oil it takes to start a coal burner, let alone provide power from that oil ?
Didn't think so.
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Well, I must say that the Cap'n is true to form. While this may be his real life Kobayashi Maru, he really doesn't believe in the no win scenario.
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Well, I must say that the Cap'n is true to form. While this may be his real life Kobayashi Maru, he really doesn't believe in the no win scenario.
+1......But I have a feeling these threads and all this fun will be coming to an end, very shortly. Then the good Captain will be forced to set sail for another Galaxy, with his crew.
Well, I must say that the Cap'n is true to form. While this may be his real life Kobayashi Maru, he really doesn't believe in the no win scenario.
+1......But I have a feeling these threads and all this fun will be coming to an end, very shortly. Then the good Captain will be forced to set sail for another Galaxy, with his crew.
How many of the oil companies, claiming this, that and the other, provide the consumers with VOA's or UOA's?
Did Pennzoil do this with the new Ultra?
All I'm saying is: buy the product, do a VOA, run it and do a UOA.
People are doing it all the time with all the other oils.
If only 1% of the posters on BITOG would extend their OCI by 1000 miles, they would have enough $$$ to pay for a gallon of Synlube, do the VOA, run it and do a UOA and show the world the data.
This may look like I'm a Synlube believer > I'm not.
Just my
Did Pennzoil do this with the new Ultra?
All I'm saying is: buy the product, do a VOA, run it and do a UOA.
People are doing it all the time with all the other oils.
If only 1% of the posters on BITOG would extend their OCI by 1000 miles, they would have enough $$$ to pay for a gallon of Synlube, do the VOA, run it and do a UOA and show the world the data.
This may look like I'm a Synlube believer > I'm not.
Just my
Kirk, a car will run on cheap dino oil for 40,000 miles. It won't be happy about it, and it certainly won't be good interior mechanical shape, but it will probably still run. I wouldn't be surprised if this is the case with your cars. I would bet there are 5 other people in the country that use synlube, including you. And unless you are Miro, how do you know other people haven't had credit card issues? Do you work for the company? Are you just pulling it out of your arse? Oh and looks, Miros other identity has come back. Hello Ankhmaat aka Miro aka Kirk.
He would't know,a 10 year old kid, could hack the site find the couple last credit card number used and well.....let you guess the rest. In these day and age credit fraud and stolen identities append on daily basis ,how can you trust a company who do not even care enough about is customer to provide a basic line of defense against these?
Originally Posted By: captain_kirk
I have never had any credit card issues period,.. almost 10 years and running!!! NOt one person ever has had an issue,...period. IF you are worried,find one actual example. You won't be able to find any because there are none,...period.
Right on Rudophna,only the owner or CEO of a company can make that statement.An engineer should know better.
I don't need to try Synlube, some people did, and complained to BBB, hence the F rating.
I have never had any credit card issues period,.. almost 10 years and running!!! NOt one person ever has had an issue,...period. IF you are worried,find one actual example. You won't be able to find any because there are none,...period.
Right on Rudophna,only the owner or CEO of a company can make that statement.An engineer should know better.
I don't need to try Synlube, some people did, and complained to BBB, hence the F rating.
Nice find, lets see the comeback!
Originally Posted By: captain_kirk
Originally Posted By: virtual
I want to know where is the office,the real address, and why there is no credit card validation on the site? Any bank will tel you to never buy anything from Internet without these accreditation ,if you are a Engineer you obviously know the reason,know the warning are legitimate and should be follow by every credit card user.Why not even paypal or google checkout?
I have never had any credit card issues period,.. almost 10 years and running!!! NOt one person ever has had an issue,...period. IF you are worried,find one actual example. You won't be able to find any because there are none,...period.
Heck, it's only $30 per month and a small transaction fee to set up a credit card payment program on your own website through PayPal (free if it links through the PayPal page), but that requires banking validation....and a legitimate mailing address.
Anyone who thinks that sending credit card numbers through Email is more secure than linking through a SSL-128 encripted gateway through PayPal or directly to merchant services of a bank is a fool.
PayPal Business Credit Card program
Originally Posted By: virtual
I want to know where is the office,the real address, and why there is no credit card validation on the site? Any bank will tel you to never buy anything from Internet without these accreditation ,if you are a Engineer you obviously know the reason,know the warning are legitimate and should be follow by every credit card user.Why not even paypal or google checkout?
I have never had any credit card issues period,.. almost 10 years and running!!! NOt one person ever has had an issue,...period. IF you are worried,find one actual example. You won't be able to find any because there are none,...period.
Heck, it's only $30 per month and a small transaction fee to set up a credit card payment program on your own website through PayPal (free if it links through the PayPal page), but that requires banking validation....and a legitimate mailing address.
Anyone who thinks that sending credit card numbers through Email is more secure than linking through a SSL-128 encripted gateway through PayPal or directly to merchant services of a bank is a fool.
PayPal Business Credit Card program
I guess he want to stay anonymous, see cia is after him to have sold the synlube recipes to the general public.
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Originally Posted By: SpitfireS
How many of the oil companies, claiming this, that and the other, provide the consumers with VOA's or UOA's?
Did Pennzoil do this with the new Ultra?
All I'm saying is: buy the product, do a VOA, run it and do a UOA.
People are doing it all the time with all the other oils.
If only 1% of the posters on BITOG would extend their OCI by 1000 miles, they would have enough $$$ to pay for a gallon of Synlube, do the VOA, run it and do a UOA and show the world the data.
Good points. We are sorta shooting the Z-Max (throw in Duralube/Cermax/whatever) salesman before a bunch of people paid $50 for $0.65 worth of product. Here it is somewhat different since there really is no marketing campaign of merit.
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This may look like I'm a Synlube believer > I'm not.
Just my
[out there humor]
I don't know about that (said/rolled out in a critical tone with a slow cadence). You Nordic/Teutonic types seem to seek magic in the form of elixirs. jonny-B, from Norway, is always seeking the Holy Grail of pour in magic. jonny-b's posts
[/out there humor and yes, I'm just kidding if you didn't pick that up]
How many of the oil companies, claiming this, that and the other, provide the consumers with VOA's or UOA's?
Did Pennzoil do this with the new Ultra?
All I'm saying is: buy the product, do a VOA, run it and do a UOA.
People are doing it all the time with all the other oils.
If only 1% of the posters on BITOG would extend their OCI by 1000 miles, they would have enough $$$ to pay for a gallon of Synlube, do the VOA, run it and do a UOA and show the world the data.
Good points. We are sorta shooting the Z-Max (throw in Duralube/Cermax/whatever) salesman before a bunch of people paid $50 for $0.65 worth of product. Here it is somewhat different since there really is no marketing campaign of merit.
Quote:
This may look like I'm a Synlube believer > I'm not.
Just my
[out there humor]
I don't know about that (said/rolled out in a critical tone with a slow cadence). You Nordic/Teutonic types seem to seek magic in the form of elixirs. jonny-B, from Norway, is always seeking the Holy Grail of pour in magic. jonny-b's posts
[/out there humor and yes, I'm just kidding if you didn't pick that up]
Originally Posted By: captain_kirk
Originally Posted By: virtual
I want to know where is the office,the real address, and why there is no credit card validation on the site? Any bank will tel you to never buy anything from Internet without these accreditation ,if you are a Engineer you obviously know the reason,know the warning are legitimate and should be follow by every credit card user.Why not even paypal or google checkout?
I have never had any credit card issues period,.. almost 10 years and running!!! NOt one person ever has had an issue,...period. IF you are worried,find one actual example. You won't be able to find any because there are none,...period.
Wait, am I reading this right? Did kirk just admit to being Miro?
Originally Posted By: virtual
I want to know where is the office,the real address, and why there is no credit card validation on the site? Any bank will tel you to never buy anything from Internet without these accreditation ,if you are a Engineer you obviously know the reason,know the warning are legitimate and should be follow by every credit card user.Why not even paypal or google checkout?
I have never had any credit card issues period,.. almost 10 years and running!!! NOt one person ever has had an issue,...period. IF you are worried,find one actual example. You won't be able to find any because there are none,...period.
Wait, am I reading this right? Did kirk just admit to being Miro?
Wait, am I reading this right? Did kirk just admit to being Miro?
Yup, thats the way I see it!! Actually a good thing, now perhaps he can answer the real questions!! Where is Synlube mixed/manufactured at? Is it really just rebottled used motor oil? Who ran the API/ILSAC/whoever certification to determine that it surpasses their standards for a lifetime?
Thanks, Kirk, looking forward to the rest of the answers!!
Yup, thats the way I see it!! Actually a good thing, now perhaps he can answer the real questions!! Where is Synlube mixed/manufactured at? Is it really just rebottled used motor oil? Who ran the API/ILSAC/whoever certification to determine that it surpasses their standards for a lifetime?
Thanks, Kirk, looking forward to the rest of the answers!!
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