Originally Posted By: BuickGN
Originally Posted By: addyguy
Sigh....just another example of what this site has become....
Speculation, butt-dyno reading, over-active imaginations...the whole nine yards.
This site, like soooo many others, is going to be a real joke soon if this tripe is allowed to continue.....
I sadly agree with you. Other forums make fun of it. I'm guilty of it myself.
Allright now, everyone chill.
First, given the comparative quality of the vast majority of the "other sites" out there, the only thing I'm laughing about is that players on "other sites" are laughing at us. Thanks to the efforts of Bob at the beginning, and Tony (RIP, Sir), and Helen since, WE are not dominated by the knuckle-dragging, profane, bullyism that is prevalent in so many other internet places. Not here, no way, no how.
Second, although it is difficult, if not impossible, to adequately define, measure, and so forth, we simply can not dismiss outright the subjective components necessarily included in how all of us interact with our motor vehicles. We do, of course, need to ensure that we properly define the boundaries between the subjective and the objective.
Our vehicles are tremendously complex machines. So are we. It is not beyond belief that certain engines respond to one oil differently than another. Humans may perceive this (I have, notably in my Infiniti VQ35 V-6). Or they may not. The real challenge is, again, keeping the subjective and objective in their proper places. I understand that no global conclusions can be drawn from the fact that I could hear timing chain rattle with one oil, but not another, in my Infiniti V-6. Would have been better if I could have done real science on this, but I could not. But it was still there.
It is entirely possible that a user can hear his engine behaving differently on one oil versus another. This is, however, only a clue at best, and nobody should try to draw definite conclusions from such an observation.
Instead of killing messengers, let's focus upon gathering as many reliable facts (most of which will live between the extremes of pure objective and pure subjective) as we can, and work from there.
