At 140 mph, that is not hype. That is true for almost every house.
Your house gets ripped off the foundation. You go with it, and they will never find the body.
Storm to watch in the next few days.
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Your house gets ripped off the foundation. You go with it, and they will never find the body.
That is over done to a degree. In my opinion.
Hurricane Andrew in 1992 a legit cat 5 at landfall did kill some people. But no where near as many as one might think a storm that strong could have.
In the wrong area especially in regards to storm surge… Absolutely. Hurricane Camille in 1969 pushed water 25 feet high and leveled well constructed buildings.
There was a guy who built a house right on the Gulf in that area of Florida which was built like the Epcot Center… Thick concrete steel construction and extremely thick windows too. Built up on a platform that was 30 feet above mean normal high water.
Hurricane Ivan which was a strong category 3 hit there and his house was just fine afterwards. Some of the weather channel crew stayed in that home.
Great day in the morning how much that home cost to build though… I’d bet in 2005 dollars it was at least 3-5 million dollars.
There was a guy who built a house right on the Gulf in that area of Florida which was built like the Epcot Center… Thick concrete steel construction and extremely thick windows too. Built up on a platform that was 30 feet above mean normal high water.
Hurricane Ivan which was a strong category 3 hit there and his house was just fine afterwards. Some of the weather channel crew stayed in that home.
Great day in the morning how much that home cost to build though… I’d bet in 2005 dollars it was at least 3-5 million dollars.
Of course, you’re right. The media’s need to scare and sensationalize just gets tiresome.
But as far as the storm goes, there will always be some die-hards who will refuse to leave, no matter how hyperbolic the media get.
Go back and look at the footage from those neighborhoods hit by Andrew in 1992….
Looking at that level of damage and destruction…
One would have thought a LOT more people would have died in that storm.
Thank goodness it was as bad as it looked to be.
Looking at that level of damage and destruction…
One would have thought a LOT more people would have died in that storm.
Thank goodness it was as bad as it looked to be.
And go back and read up on hurricane deaths in the 1920s in Florida…. A high number of very strong category 3.4 and possibly 5 hurricanes hit that state.
Thousands and thousands of people died in a single hurricane back then.
It was so bad that Florida suffered a long with population being stagnant because people were scared to death to move there.
Then after the Labor Day Hurricane of 1935 which set the lowest barometric pressure at 892 mB for 53 years until Hurricane Gilbert in 1988. Plus wi of legitimate sustained winds of 200 mph plus.. …. A shockingly LONG period of relatively quiet hurricane weather in the state of Florida. Only major hurricane of note between 1935 and Hurricane Andrew in 1992 was Hurricane Betsy in 1965.
That led to the growth in population in Florida during that time.
Thousands and thousands of people died in a single hurricane back then.
It was so bad that Florida suffered a long with population being stagnant because people were scared to death to move there.
Then after the Labor Day Hurricane of 1935 which set the lowest barometric pressure at 892 mB for 53 years until Hurricane Gilbert in 1988. Plus wi of legitimate sustained winds of 200 mph plus.. …. A shockingly LONG period of relatively quiet hurricane weather in the state of Florida. Only major hurricane of note between 1935 and Hurricane Andrew in 1992 was Hurricane Betsy in 1965.
That led to the growth in population in Florida during that time.
I remember so many years ago at the dinner table my father telling me all about those storms and how he never understood why folx were moving there...around 1965..
That wind is reported at flight level...does not mean it will reach the ground...
Statistically hurricane deaths are 1) storm surge / drowning, and a distant second is wind blown debris hitting someone who is outside. Believe it or not modern houses can withstand a lot of wind - although its unlikely they will have a roof or any windows left.
Also once the outer bands hit land the storms start weakening pretty fast, unless there very fast moving.
The deadliest hurricane in USA was 1900 Galveston Hurricane. Many of the houses survived the cat 4 but were submerged and thousands drown. Very well written book on this was "Isaac's Storm", and its written from the perspective of several people that survived the storm, including the head of the weather office who lost his wife and couple of his children. Its a chilling account.
Also once the outer bands hit land the storms start weakening pretty fast, unless there very fast moving.
The deadliest hurricane in USA was 1900 Galveston Hurricane. Many of the houses survived the cat 4 but were submerged and thousands drown. Very well written book on this was "Isaac's Storm", and its written from the perspective of several people that survived the storm, including the head of the weather office who lost his wife and couple of his children. Its a chilling account.
This storm is absolutely huge. Went out for a walk and the mild outer bands and humidity is well into Charleston already, and it hasn't even made landfall in the gulf yet. Looks like they are nearing Atlanta as well.
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head west young man (north not so much) …
There is a mass grave in Palm Beach from the 1928 Hurricane. I had no idea this part of its history and mass grave not too far from downtown. Many years ago I worked not too far from this burial site.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_of_1928_African-American_Mass_Burial_Site
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With 1900 there just was no technology, comms/warnings, etc - however, even by the 60’s (crude compared to today’s tech/comms) - we were in decent shape - Carla was a dead hit storm for us - but the authorities and people knew to get out of the way … The bay house I bought was rebuilt after it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Carla
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Just east of the ATL and just before midnight. So far we're just starting to pick up some pretty significant rain. We're right in the path, so I suspect it is going to come ripping through here and knock down just about every pine tree that is next to a power line since the ground is already so soggy.
Knowing my luck I'll have just gotten good and asleep around 6am and it will knock out the power...
Yes, thank you. No where in this storm were there 140 MPH, 130 MPH, 120 MPH, 110 MPH sustained wind speeds on the ground.
You will be hard pressed to have recorded ground wind GUST of 110.
Still a very powerful storm but much of the media does not educate the public about this reality. There was an NBC channel last night pointing this out and I was quite surprised they did.
It would be great to have a source of measured ground wind speeds
It’s out there, the media doesn’t pay attention to it as much as flight level for effect
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Took a jog to the right when it got into Georgia oddly enough. NHC had it pretty much coming straight up through the state. Not like them to miss like that when the times get close.
Almost skirting the SC border at tropical force. Son in Spartanburg lost power @ 6:40 AM Friday
Not sure if they ever lost power before. Utilities are underground for the community.
Local Raleigh TV weather is reporting “a slight shift East” which will bring more damaging winds and higher rain totals to central NC. What’s not different in their forecast are the rain totals (1 to 3 inches and 40 MPH wind gusts). Sensationalized news reporting all for TV viewership.
Actually, surface wind is reported at 10 meters. 33 feet. That’s the official level.
Many roofs, including ours, are above that level.
So, surface winds, as reported, are at about the height of roofs.
If we are talking, the winds that are used to define hurricane strength, then yes, that’s somewhere substantially higher,
But if they state that surface winds are expected to be “XXX” - then, yeah, that’s what you feel at your roof. Maybe not at your foundation, or the height of your car, but at your roof.
Yes! Not sure if the is what @ctechbob was talking about, seems to be tracking over SC Spartanburg area instead of where they said it would go.
Son lost power there and I just pulled up this satellite shows it over upstate sc
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