I haven't seen any evidence Exxon-Mobil is using Group III+ instead of Group III. Further, what evidence we do have, it's mostly Group III and AN, with very little PAO or POE.
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I haven't seen any evidence Exxon-Mobil is using Group III+ instead of Group III. Further, what evidence we do have, it's mostly Group III and AN, with very little PAO or POE.
And there's more CAS numbers to be had there:
http://www.shelldubai.com/industrial/msds11.htm
http://www.shelldubai.com/industrial/msds12.htm
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I think I posted this on the Rotella forum about four years ago, so it isn't "from Shell," though I got an e-mail from Peter Van Benthuysen at the time confirming the accuracy of what I wrote.
I wonder how many long time members actually remember that your original username on here was XHVI?
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I wonder why M1 isn't pimping 'New' Mobil 1 Quattro Synthetic?
Because the general public would think it was only for people driving Audis
Jean Chretien = former prime minister of Canada, for those who might be wondering what Don's talking about.
Wonder what oil Jean put in his limos? Maybe that famous choking incident was on a guy trying too hard to get him to switch brands.
Wonder what oil Jean put in his limos? Maybe that famous choking incident was on a guy trying too hard to get him to switch brands.
Can't. I automatically delete all your PMs.
As far as M1 containing Group III+, I'm sure Tom will tell you that he only assumed M1 contained Group III+, he doesn't know for a fact if it does or doesn't. It could just as easily be any of the Group IIIs out on the market.
http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=749606
http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/s...0212#Post750212
http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/s...0513#Post750513
http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/s...0621#Post750621
One other point...weren't you the one who violently exclaimed in another thread that it's the final performance of the formulation that matters, not the basestocks? If that's the case, what makes this blend of basetocks any better than any other?
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One other point...weren't you the one who violently exclaimed in another thread that it's the final performance of the formulation that matters, not the basestocks? If that's the case, what makes this blend of basetocks any better than any other?
It is the performance of the oil that matters. But isn't performance basically determined by the basestocks and additives?
Some company may be slightly better than another at the perfect mix of basestocks and additives...but I bet the overall quality of the oil, and its level of performance, reflects the quality of the basestocks and additives.
Shell seems to on a roll right now. Shell / Pennzoil/ Quaker State offer good performance and they price their products fairly.
Amsoil and Redline offer higher levels of performance and address specific needs...and the additional price increase matches the quality increase.
Mobil 1 [ except for TDT/ Delvac1 and 0W-20 ] and non GC Castro Syntec are the two oils that seem overpriced.
Alight, this may actually be my first post, but I have been reading on here for quite some time on and off. I just have one question, could someone direct me to any links or provide any information, as to what people are saying here about Mobil 1. I have used this product for many of many years, but I am always open to spending my money on something that is better. This may be an old topic for many on here, but to me, I am interested in knowing some of the facts. thanks in advance.
Blue, here are a few *recent* threads to get you started. But use the search feature, look for threads with "Mobil 1" in the title, go back about about 4 months, and you'll have more reading than you can handle.
Mobil 1 #1
Mobil 1 #2
Mobil 1 #3
Mobil 1 #4
Me too.....
Post out of context, never mind me......
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