Shell Rotella Gas Truck
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There were multiple threads on it in the last few months.
Conclusions:
1. Slightly on the thick side in 5w30 type, which is good for vehicles that have fuel dilution for some viscosity margin over an oil change interval.
2. Shell claims to put in more or better anti-oxidants which protects against high temperature (towing) oxidation & helps longevity, similar to Mobil1 AP's claims on antioxidant protection.
3. Cheaply priced at Walmart.
4. dexos1 Gen2 performance rating on Shell Rotella Gas Truck oil, which is a tougher performance spec than SN, but not as high as MB 229.71 and BMW LL-01FE oils.
5. Shell has a good reputation formulating oils and controlling quality. This oil is likely a good choice.
6. It claims "All-Mileage" which might be Shell's way of saying use it new & old engines, indicating it has some extra seal conditioning like High Mileage oils.
7. Not sure if they are using PurePlus Group3+ base oils like Pennzoil Platinum sister products in the SOPUS portfolio. It would be good if they are found to be using that.
8. Shell says this is not a duplicate of any of their other oils, like Shell Rotella Multi-Vehicle or any QS or Pennz products on the shelf.
Conclusions:
1. Slightly on the thick side in 5w30 type, which is good for vehicles that have fuel dilution for some viscosity margin over an oil change interval.
2. Shell claims to put in more or better anti-oxidants which protects against high temperature (towing) oxidation & helps longevity, similar to Mobil1 AP's claims on antioxidant protection.
3. Cheaply priced at Walmart.
4. dexos1 Gen2 performance rating on Shell Rotella Gas Truck oil, which is a tougher performance spec than SN, but not as high as MB 229.71 and BMW LL-01FE oils.
5. Shell has a good reputation formulating oils and controlling quality. This oil is likely a good choice.
6. It claims "All-Mileage" which might be Shell's way of saying use it new & old engines, indicating it has some extra seal conditioning like High Mileage oils.
7. Not sure if they are using PurePlus Group3+ base oils like Pennzoil Platinum sister products in the SOPUS portfolio. It would be good if they are found to be using that.
8. Shell says this is not a duplicate of any of their other oils, like Shell Rotella Multi-Vehicle or any QS or Pennz products on the shelf.
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Originally Posted by Whimsey
Originally Posted by Jimmy_Russells
I have no doubt this product likely offers some benefit, but whether or not that benefit is really tangible remains to be seen.
I'm kind of surprised oil manufacturers haven't tried a 'DI specific' oil marketing angle yet.
Originally Posted by Jimmy_Russells
I have no doubt this product likely offers some benefit, but whether or not that benefit is really tangible remains to be seen.
I'm kind of surprised oil manufacturers haven't tried a 'DI specific' oil marketing angle yet.
That's probably because most people don't change their own oil and haven't the foggiest idea of what a DI engine means or care about it. Maybe that's something quick lube places can market to and make extra money on
. Sad to say I feel that DIY oil changes are becoming less and less with the younger generations.
Whimsey
Yep and who knows, maybe someday soon they'll stop installing oil dipsticks too lol
Originally Posted by Jimmy_Russells
I have no doubt this product likely offers some benefit, but whether or not that benefit is really tangible remains to be seen.
I'm kind of surprised oil manufacturers haven't tried a 'DI specific' oil marketing angle yet.
Originally Posted by Jimmy_Russells
I have no doubt this product likely offers some benefit, but whether or not that benefit is really tangible remains to be seen.
I'm kind of surprised oil manufacturers haven't tried a 'DI specific' oil marketing angle yet.
That's probably because most people don't change their own oil and haven't the foggiest idea of what a DI engine means or care about it. Maybe that's something quick lube places can market to and make extra money on
Whimsey
Yep and who knows, maybe someday soon they'll stop installing oil dipsticks too lol
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Originally Posted by Pinoak
Originally Posted by Whimsey
Originally Posted by Jimmy_Russells
I have no doubt this product likely offers some benefit, but whether or not that benefit is really tangible remains to be seen.
I'm kind of surprised oil manufacturers haven't tried a 'DI specific' oil marketing angle yet.
Originally Posted by Jimmy_Russells
I have no doubt this product likely offers some benefit, but whether or not that benefit is really tangible remains to be seen.
I'm kind of surprised oil manufacturers haven't tried a 'DI specific' oil marketing angle yet.
That's probably because most people don't change their own oil and haven't the foggiest idea of what a DI engine means or care about it. Maybe that's something quick lube places can market to and make extra money on
. Sad to say I feel that DIY oil changes are becoming less and less with the younger generations.
Whimsey
Yep and who knows, maybe someday soon they'll stop installing oil dipsticks too lol
That is already happening.
Originally Posted by Whimsey
Originally Posted by Jimmy_Russells
I have no doubt this product likely offers some benefit, but whether or not that benefit is really tangible remains to be seen.
I'm kind of surprised oil manufacturers haven't tried a 'DI specific' oil marketing angle yet.
Originally Posted by Jimmy_Russells
I have no doubt this product likely offers some benefit, but whether or not that benefit is really tangible remains to be seen.
I'm kind of surprised oil manufacturers haven't tried a 'DI specific' oil marketing angle yet.
That's probably because most people don't change their own oil and haven't the foggiest idea of what a DI engine means or care about it. Maybe that's something quick lube places can market to and make extra money on
Whimsey
Yep and who knows, maybe someday soon they'll stop installing oil dipsticks too lol
That is already happening.
Originally Posted by PimTac
Originally Posted by Pinoak
Originally Posted by Whimsey
Originally Posted by Jimmy_Russells
I have no doubt this product likely offers some benefit, but whether or not that benefit is really tangible remains to be seen.
I'm kind of surprised oil manufacturers haven't tried a 'DI specific' oil marketing angle yet.
Originally Posted by Jimmy_Russells
I have no doubt this product likely offers some benefit, but whether or not that benefit is really tangible remains to be seen.
I'm kind of surprised oil manufacturers haven't tried a 'DI specific' oil marketing angle yet.
That's probably because most people don't change their own oil and haven't the foggiest idea of what a DI engine means or care about it. Maybe that's something quick lube places can market to and make extra money on
. Sad to say I feel that DIY oil changes are becoming less and less with the younger generations.
Whimsey
Yep and who knows, maybe someday soon they'll stop installing oil dipsticks too lol
That is already happening.
Really??? I was kinda just kidding because I know they have been leaving out the dipsticks on ATs
Originally Posted by Pinoak
Originally Posted by Whimsey
Originally Posted by Jimmy_Russells
I have no doubt this product likely offers some benefit, but whether or not that benefit is really tangible remains to be seen.
I'm kind of surprised oil manufacturers haven't tried a 'DI specific' oil marketing angle yet.
Originally Posted by Jimmy_Russells
I have no doubt this product likely offers some benefit, but whether or not that benefit is really tangible remains to be seen.
I'm kind of surprised oil manufacturers haven't tried a 'DI specific' oil marketing angle yet.
That's probably because most people don't change their own oil and haven't the foggiest idea of what a DI engine means or care about it. Maybe that's something quick lube places can market to and make extra money on
Whimsey
Yep and who knows, maybe someday soon they'll stop installing oil dipsticks too lol
That is already happening.
Really??? I was kinda just kidding because I know they have been leaving out the dipsticks on ATs
Originally Posted by PimTac
A lot of newer cars are moving towards electronic dipsticks so to speak. BMW has them for one. The members here that have them actually like them.
I like that my Porsche has both.
The Atlas has only a dipstick and it's a stupid design - I'd rather have a sensor.
A lot of newer cars are moving towards electronic dipsticks so to speak. BMW has them for one. The members here that have them actually like them.
I like that my Porsche has both.
The Atlas has only a dipstick and it's a stupid design - I'd rather have a sensor.
Originally Posted by rooflessVW
Originally Posted by PimTac
A lot of newer cars are moving towards electronic dipsticks so to speak. BMW has them for one. The members here that have them actually like them.
I like that my Porsche has both.
The Atlas has only a dipstick and it's a stupid design - I'd rather have a sensor.
LOL well their leading you down the primrose path pretty soon you'll need to take it to the Stealership to check your oil level.
Originally Posted by PimTac
A lot of newer cars are moving towards electronic dipsticks so to speak. BMW has them for one. The members here that have them actually like them.
I like that my Porsche has both.
The Atlas has only a dipstick and it's a stupid design - I'd rather have a sensor.
LOL well their leading you down the primrose path pretty soon you'll need to take it to the Stealership to check your oil level.
Originally Posted by JohnnyJohnson
LOL well their leading you down the primrose path pretty soon you'll need to take it to the Stealership to check your oil level.
They're*
And I wouldn't mind. All I really need is a light to tell me "add one quart."
LOL well their leading you down the primrose path pretty soon you'll need to take it to the Stealership to check your oil level.
They're*
And I wouldn't mind. All I really need is a light to tell me "add one quart."
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Originally Posted by Env1ous
I am new learning about oil but to me it looks like this is going to be a more GDI focused oil that plays well with new V8s. I know in the ecoboost world fuel dillution is a more common thing and anything to try to help with that and the LSPI is a win to me.
Looks like it to me. Low Ca, with moly that quenches LSPI
I am new learning about oil but to me it looks like this is going to be a more GDI focused oil that plays well with new V8s. I know in the ecoboost world fuel dillution is a more common thing and anything to try to help with that and the LSPI is a win to me.
Looks like it to me. Low Ca, with moly that quenches LSPI
I violated the instructions and ran it in my Subaru Impreza
Haven't noticed any difference. I mostly think the gas truck BS is marketing, but I do recall reading somewhere that it was at the thicker end of the 0w-20 range. For GM truck owners needing a warranty-approved Dexos 0w-20 oil, it would probably be a good fill. With the rebate and aggressive pricing at Walmart/Amazon, it's not a bad oil for any vehicle calling for a 0 or 5 20. If you need a 5w-30, I'd go with Rotella T6 multivehicle which has superior antiwear capabilities.
Haven't noticed any difference. I mostly think the gas truck BS is marketing, but I do recall reading somewhere that it was at the thicker end of the 0w-20 range. For GM truck owners needing a warranty-approved Dexos 0w-20 oil, it would probably be a good fill. With the rebate and aggressive pricing at Walmart/Amazon, it's not a bad oil for any vehicle calling for a 0 or 5 20. If you need a 5w-30, I'd go with Rotella T6 multivehicle which has superior antiwear capabilities.
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Superior to what and how so ?
Originally Posted by jqgz
I violated the instructions and ran it in my Subaru Impreza
Haven't noticed any difference. I mostly think the gas truck BS is marketing, but I do recall reading somewhere that it was at the thicker end of the 0w-20 range
I was going to pickup 5q for $10 and throw some in my Insight
I violated the instructions and ran it in my Subaru Impreza
Haven't noticed any difference. I mostly think the gas truck BS is marketing, but I do recall reading somewhere that it was at the thicker end of the 0w-20 range
I was going to pickup 5q for $10 and throw some in my Insight
Originally Posted by Rmay635703
Originally Posted by jqgz
I violated the instructions and ran it in my Subaru Impreza
Haven't noticed any difference. I mostly think the gas truck BS is marketing, but I do recall reading somewhere that it was at the thicker end of the 0w-20 range
I was going to pickup 5q for $10 and throw some in my Insight
I'd use with confidence, though just want to throw out there, people seem to seek a thinner oil for Insights. Idemitsu ZePro 0w-20 is the lowest cSt40° oil I've seen. At $40/5qt it likely pays for the upcharge in gas savings over 7k miles.
Originally Posted by jqgz
I violated the instructions and ran it in my Subaru Impreza
Haven't noticed any difference. I mostly think the gas truck BS is marketing, but I do recall reading somewhere that it was at the thicker end of the 0w-20 range
I was going to pickup 5q for $10 and throw some in my Insight
I'd use with confidence, though just want to throw out there, people seem to seek a thinner oil for Insights. Idemitsu ZePro 0w-20 is the lowest cSt40° oil I've seen. At $40/5qt it likely pays for the upcharge in gas savings over 7k miles.
Originally Posted by jqgz
I'd use with confidence, though just want to throw out there, people seem to seek a thinner oil for Insights. Idemitsu ZePro 0w-20 is the lowest cSt40° oil I've seen. At $40/5qt it likely pays for the upcharge in gas savings over 7k miles.
What does that mean? What people and where, and for what reason?
And no, I'm not one of those "thickness" you threw out in that other thread.
I'd use with confidence, though just want to throw out there, people seem to seek a thinner oil for Insights. Idemitsu ZePro 0w-20 is the lowest cSt40° oil I've seen. At $40/5qt it likely pays for the upcharge in gas savings over 7k miles.
What does that mean? What people and where, and for what reason?
And no, I'm not one of those "thickness" you threw out in that other thread.
Originally Posted by kschachn
Originally Posted by jqgz
I'd use with confidence, though just want to throw out there, people seem to seek a thinner oil for Insights. Idemitsu ZePro 0w-20 is the lowest cSt40° oil I've seen. At $40/5qt it likely pays for the upcharge in gas savings over 7k miles.
What does that mean? What people and where, and for what reason?
And no, I'm not one of those "thickness" you threw out in that other thread.
Overseas Honda specs green oil for the Insight which is lighter than 0w20
I run my Insight pretty hard so a little stronger 0w20 with more PAO is a no brainer.
Current I use the buck a quart Mobil AP 5w20 I picked up, if I ever re-enable the Hybrid system and stop pulling trailers with the car I might opt for some 0w16
Originally Posted by jqgz
I'd use with confidence, though just want to throw out there, people seem to seek a thinner oil for Insights. Idemitsu ZePro 0w-20 is the lowest cSt40° oil I've seen. At $40/5qt it likely pays for the upcharge in gas savings over 7k miles.
What does that mean? What people and where, and for what reason?
And no, I'm not one of those "thickness" you threw out in that other thread.
Overseas Honda specs green oil for the Insight which is lighter than 0w20
I run my Insight pretty hard so a little stronger 0w20 with more PAO is a no brainer.
Current I use the buck a quart Mobil AP 5w20 I picked up, if I ever re-enable the Hybrid system and stop pulling trailers with the car I might opt for some 0w16
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How is a PAO oil "stronger" and better for the Insight because you run it "pretty hard"? Are PAO molecules mechanically stronger than a regular ~C30 hydrocarbon molecule?
Less VII is a stronger oil
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