Schaeffer's Supreme 10W-30, 5009 miles, 04 Nissan Quest V-6

[shortyb]

First UOA on new minivan. 15K with the superb VQ35DE engine. LC and FP since new, 3rd interval with Schaeffer's. Wife's van so doesn't see quite the high RPMs the Maxima did (same engine type) but she does get her foot in it a bit. She loves torque just like me

. Just about cured her of "warming it up" for several minutes before blast-off. Thank God for seat heaters.

OK, here goes. Blackstone Labs with the ever excellent interpretation by Terry Dyson.

Miles on engine-15153
Miles on oil-5009
Make-up oil-0
Oil and air filter-OEM

First #s are elemental analysis, second are universal averages.

Aluminum-3/4
Chromium-1/1
Iron-8/13
Copper-6/8
Lead-3/6
Tin-1/1
Moly-81/53
Nickel-0/0
Manganese-1/1
Silver-0/0
Titanium-0/0
Potassium-0/1
Boron-3/88
Silicon-13/12
Sodium-2/5
Calcium-2218/2505
Magnesium-0/197
Phosphorus-864/751
Zinc-1069/897
Barium-0/0

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Flash-425
Fuel- Coolant-0.0
H2O-0.0
Insolubles-0.2
TBN-1.3

I'm becomming accustomed to Blackstone's TBN testing numbers and am not really worried about this result. It could probably go out to 7500 before its done. The Si #s are probably some residual engine break-in components as the VQ notoriously wears in slowly. No filtration problems that I can see other than the underhood gets alot of dirt build-up due to its frontal design.

My opinion? I think Schaeffer's is a kick-a oil, especially teamed up with the LC and FP. I'm running GC this interval to see what it does but am glad to have such a good "fallback" oil if the GC produces less than stellar results. Comments please

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[Tones]

Shorty, looks good. Insolubles nice and low due to LC. Nice flash point too. I am using this oil too and am pleased so far. I should have a UOA soon on my wife's car with the 5W-30. Nice report.

 

[chinee]

That's a nice VQ report. Maybe I should start using LC in my G35... it seems to reduce wear in the VQ. I'll make that decision in 6000 miles, after two dino intervals and UOAs.

 

[Al]

Nice report. It will be good to see a comparison between the oils. TBN is down there though.

Still hanging around Virginia for now???

 

[Whimsey]

Another real good report with using a Schaeffer's Blend. Even in an engine that can be "hard" on some oils. It'll be interesting to see the GC comparison. Al, I would not sweat Blackstone's TBN. Schaeffer's TBN number is around 7+ using the ASTM D2896 method. Blackstone's TBN of 1.3 would probably translate to around a TBN of 3.5+ using the same test method. Also Schaeffer's seems to go lower faster but then hangs there for a long time without further depletion.

Whimsey

 

[shortyb]

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Originally posted by chinee:
That's a nice VQ report. Maybe I should start using LC in my G35... it seems to reduce wear in the VQ. I'll make that decision in 6000 miles, after two dino intervals and UOAs.

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Why wait, get the LC in there now!

Al-still hanging around causing trouble

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[Al]

quote:

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Originally posted by shortyb:
Al-still hanging around causing trouble

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I hear ya

 

[ekpolk]

quote:

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Originally posted by chinee:
That's a nice VQ report. Maybe I should start using LC in my G35... it seems to reduce wear in the VQ. I'll make that decision in 6000 miles, after two dino intervals and UOAs.

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I've been using it with GC in my VQ and got good UOA results.

Real reason I found this thread is that I was looking for other oils that seem particularly well suited to the VQ V-6. Shorty, did you select the Schaeffers based upon its general rep, or is there some other specific info showing that it does especially well in the VQ. I'm also considering using M1 0w-40 if and when my ocean of GC dries up.

 

[shortyb]

ek- Nothing specific. Al turned me onto Schaeffer's awhile back and I've had great results in everything its gone in since.

I'm still amazed at how this relatively unknown and rather inexpensive oil can continually beat the snot out of some of the more expensive and popular oils (synths). At least in my personal experience and the UOAs I've seen here. Using GC in the Quest for a couple of intervals just for grins, but its nice to know that I will have a great "fallback" oil if I need it.