Royal Purple = Underrated Extended Drain Oil?

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Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR
Originally Posted By: priler

I wonder if we will ever see RP at Walmart?


I don't think so, after disaster experience with high price Castrol Edge, Walmart learned that expensive oil doesn't sell in their stores.


Both Walmarts here sell it. Only the 5W30 and the 10W30 grades.


Same here. All three Wal Mart stores in my area sell RP.
 
Originally Posted By: sangyup81
You threw out the 5 quart M1 for $22 at Walmart.

That comes out to $4.40 per quart.

Now for those that need 0w40, RP starts looking really good =)


You replied to my post even though there is no quote here so I "assume" you are referring to my pricing comments. Please go back and look again. I stated the prices I gave were on individual qt bottles. Not bulk jugs which RP is not available in. Yes, in bulk jugs at WM the price is a lot less. That was not my point. My point was I pay the same or less p/individual qt than I would for M1, PP, QS, etc...
 
Originally Posted By: 02zx9r
Do people really give a [censored] about what I or anybody else thinks about an oil? Really I mean come on, unless you are getting kick backs or something why do you really give a [censored] if someone bashes a [censored] oil?? Is it taking money out of your pocket because I say RP sucks? Amsoil sucks? Pennzoil Platinum sucks??

Just don't see why one or two people have to get so bent out of shape because someone say's Royal Purple is over-priced and a marginal performer at best! I could give a rats [censored] if someone every day says PP, Valvoline, RP, Castrol, etc... is the worst oil out there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't lose sleep over it like some people. "I have been a devoted user since 1990!!" Well congratulations, good for you! "What? How dare you say my beloved RP is a Grp III, and not a good performer, well here comes more paragraphs saying the same thing over and over.......


And those same things I say over and over are to counter the outright lies and flasehoods a few people, including you, continue to post. So who is to blame for that? Me for correcting flase claims or you and your boys for posting them again and again?

I don't trash other oils on here to promote RP either. I also resent your kick back implication. I have NO affiliation with RP at all. I have run RP for 20 years( even sold it at one time - not for the company - aftermarket parts chain )and thus feel I have the experience to back up what I say. Something you and your boys do not with RP. I post all the time about Kendall GT1 being a great synthetic for those concerned with cost. Does that mean I am on the ConocoPhillips payroll as well? Man I must get rich with all those RP and Kendall kickbacks. PLEASE!
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Do I care that you don't like it? No. However, this is an oil site where people discuss oil and when the subject of RP comes up, and guys like you who haven't even used it start throwing out false info and opinions based on NOTHING, I feel I should correct you. There is a post right now on the 1st page from a newbie asking about it. If they listened to guys like you, PT1, JohnBrowning, etc... they would think it is the worst oil ever based on comments from guys who lie about it and basically haven't even used it.

Is that right to let a new member to the site base a decision on oil( on an oil site now )using comments from those with admitted biases and no actual experience with the product and who lie about it? To allow that would, IMO, defeat the whole purpose of this site.

Maybe you should stick to what you know or at least try RP with an open mind to see what it is before trashing it. It isn't that I care what you think it is the fact you and your boys LIE about the products from RP and by your own admissions you haven't even used it or have had extremely limited experience with it( 1 time )in your posts about it. You post however as if you have worlds of experience with it and you have had vehicles blow up using it which we know is untrue. Someone needs to correct the false info. As said I have the experience to do so.

Want me to stop the long posts then you and your posse stop the lies and outright falsehoods and I will.
 
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There has been a lot of hating on Royal Purple on this site.
I have never used it, although I might try some just for grins when one of the chains offers an oil change deal with a good filter, as one did last year.
Some folks who have good cred here report good results with Royal Purple.
Where all the hating comes from I have no idea.
You are on point when you post that newer members are often swayed by uninformed bashing of a product.
In many cases, one observes people with no significant vehicle ownership or maintenance experience, who have never worked on anything mechanical in their lives, piling on in bashing threads.
It matters not whether the thread involves Royal Purple, Fram filters, American nameplate cars, or a brand of brie.
People with no experience base in the product will chime in, basing their posts upon what others have written.
 
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Originally Posted By: 02zx9r
Do people really give a [censored] about what I or anybody else thinks about an oil? Really I mean come on, unless you are getting kick backs or something why do you really give a [censored] if someone bashes a [censored] oil?? Is it taking money out of your pocket because I say RP sucks? Amsoil sucks? Pennzoil Platinum sucks??

Just don't see why one or two people have to get so bent out of shape because someone say's Royal Purple is over-priced and a marginal performer at best! I could give a rats [censored] if someone every day says PP, Valvoline, RP, Castrol, etc... is the worst oil out there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't lose sleep over it like some people. "I have been a devoted user since 1990!!" Well congratulations, good for you! "What? How dare you say my beloved RP is a Grp III, and not a good performer, well here comes more paragraphs saying the same thing over and over.......


And those same things I say over and over are to counter the outright lies and flasehoods a few people, including you, continue to post. So who is to blame for that? Me for correcting flase claims or you and your boys for posting them again and again?

I don't trash other oils on here to promote RP either. I also resent your kick back implication. I have NO affiliation with RP at all. I have run RP for 20 years( even sold it at one time - not for the company - aftermarket parts chain )and thus feel I have the experience to back up what I say. Something you and your boys do not with RP. I post all the time about Kendall GT1 being a great synthetic for those concerned with cost. Does that mean I am on the ConocoPhillips payroll as well? Man I must get rich with all those RP and Kendall kickbacks. PLEASE!
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Do I care that you don't like it? No. However, this is an oil site where people discuss oil and when the subject of RP comes up, and guys like you who haven't even used it start throwing out false info and opinions based on NOTHING, I feel I should correct you. There is a post right now on the 1st page from a newbie asking about it. If they listened to guys like you, PT1, JohnBrowning, etc... they would think it is the worst oil ever based on comments from guys who lie about it and basically haven't even used it.

Is that right to let a new member to the site base a decision on oil( on an oil site now )using comments from those with admitted biases and no actual experience with the product and who lie about it? To allow that would, IMO, defeat the whole purpose of this site.

Maybe you should stick to what you know or at least try RP with an open mind to see what it is before trashing it. It isn't that I care what you think it is the fact you and your boys LIE about the products from RP and by your own admissions you haven't even used it or have had extremely limited experience with it( 1 time )in your posts about it. You post however as if you have worlds of experience with it and you have had vehicles blow up using it which we know is untrue. Someone needs to correct the false info. As said I have the experience to do so.

Want me to stop the long posts then you and your posse stop the lies and outright falsehoods and I will.


I have never lied about RP! I have always been honest, I think it is over priced, marginal performance at best! Where is the lie in that? That's my story and I am sticking to it. You can get your panties all in a bunch and defend it all you want-I really don't give a [censored]!
 
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Originally Posted By: sangyup81
You threw out the 5 quart M1 for $22 at Walmart.

That comes out to $4.40 per quart.

Now for those that need 0w40, RP starts looking really good =)


You replied to my post even though there is no quote here so I "assume" you are referring to my pricing comments. Please go back and look again. I stated the prices I gave were on individual qt bottles. Not bulk jugs which RP is not available in. Yes, in bulk jugs at WM the price is a lot less. That was not my point. My point was I pay the same or less p/individual qt than I would for M1, PP, QS, etc...


Then you are hiding the facts in order to make RP look better. There's no mention at all of people who buy in 5 quart jugs when most educated M1 users (like the ones in BITOG) would go for the cheaper way.
 
From the RP FAQ

Quote:

Why doesn’t Wal-Mart have more product?

We do not sell directly to Wal-Mart. Any product that is being sold to them is being sold without our knowledge or involvement.
 
Originally Posted By: sangyup81
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Originally Posted By: sangyup81
You threw out the 5 quart M1 for $22 at Walmart.

That comes out to $4.40 per quart.

Now for those that need 0w40, RP starts looking really good =)


You replied to my post even though there is no quote here so I "assume" you are referring to my pricing comments. Please go back and look again. I stated the prices I gave were on individual qt bottles. Not bulk jugs which RP is not available in. Yes, in bulk jugs at WM the price is a lot less. That was not my point. My point was I pay the same or less p/individual qt than I would for M1, PP, QS, etc...


Then you are hiding the facts in order to make RP look better. There's no mention at all of people who buy in 5 quart jugs when most educated M1 users (like the ones in BITOG) would go for the cheaper way.


How am I hiding anything? That is a good one.
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RP is not sold in bulk discount jugs at Wal-Mart. I stated the cost of qt bottles of RP at WM which I said was too high. RP pricing at Wal-Mart was included in comparison to the name brands there in qt bottles so my point was and is valid and nothing shady about it. I just talked about qt bottle prices.

How can I compare the pricing structure of 5qt bulk bottles of RP at Wal-Mart to the name brands when it does not exist? I simply compared the cost of individual qt bottles, which is the only way 99.9% of folks can get it, and pointed out that is what I was compapring. Even the most uneducated, newbie, housewife would know a bulk jug at Wal-Mart was a better deal just by seeing it on the shelf. No intentional omissions to make RP look better just sticking to a fair price comparison.

It was very clear from the pricing I gave that I can NOT go to Wal-Mart or a parts store and get RP cheaper than the name brand oils. Bulk or qt bottles. So again how am I misleading people or being dishonest? I simply pointed out that by shopping around and doing some research you can "usually" find a source outside of Wal-Mart and a parts store where RP is the same as, or even less than, qt bottle pricing at those same places. THAT is the point I made.

My truck takes 7 qts of oil so even if I bought a 5qt bulk jug of M1 at WM( $26.00 here btw not $22 )I would still have to buy 2 qts to do an OC which means even at Wal-Mart the qt bottle prce is relevant. Many cars only take 4qts of oil as well so a 5qt jug is too much( lots of people wont buy a 5qt jug for a 4 qt car due to measuring and storage ). Individual qt pricing is a valid comparison.

Does this make you feel better?

(7) 1qt bottles of RP at my best price = 7 X $5.75 = $40.25

(1) 5qt jug M1 @ Wal-Mart = $26.00
(2) 1 qt bottles M1 @ Wal-Mart = 2 X $6.99 = $13.98
Total = $26.00 + $13.98 = $39.98

Savings buying M1 at Wal-Mart to do an OC on my truck, instead of RP, as described above( inferior oil IMO ) = $0.27

Also, I would not buy M1 anyway. If I were to shop at Wal-Mart for an oil it would be Penzoil Platinum....

(7) 1qt bottles of RP at my best price = 7 X $5.75 = $40.25

(1) 5qt jug PP @ Wal-Mart = $23.00
(2) 1 qt bottles PP @ Wal-Mart = 2 X $6.59 = $13.18
Total = $23.00 + $13.18 = $36.18

Savings buying PP at Wal-Mart to do an OC on my truck, instead of RP, as described above( as good as PP is I still feel it is an inferior oil compared to RP - IMHO ) = $4.07

I do 2-3 OC's a year so saving $8-$12 a year on oil to me is not a valid reason to use something I don't feel is as good. How is my point invalid and what exactly did I hide?
 
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If Royal Purple costs $5.75/qt...

and Mobil 1 costs $4.40/qt....

then Mobil 1 is cheaper than Royal Purple.

Value judgments aside, I don't see where the disagreement lies.
 
Originally Posted By: d00df00d
If Royal Purple costs $5.75/qt...

and Mobil 1 costs $4.40/qt....

then Mobil 1 is cheaper than Royal Purple.

Value judgments aside, I don't see where the disagreement lies.


I swear some of you guys intentionally do this.

The comparison was between INDIVIDUAL QUART BOTTLES NOT 5 QUART BULK JUGS! I never said RP qt bottles were cheaper p/qt than the p/qt price of 5qt bulk jugs al WM. I was accused of intentionally misleading people/excluding that fact to pump up RP which is FALSE!

Mobil 1 only cost $4.40 p/qt( actually $5.20 here as the 5qt jug is $26 )when bought in the bulk jug at Wal-Mart. The p/qt price in individual bottles, which is what I was talking about and made clear( to anyone who can read ), at WM or parts stores generally runs $6.99. So for me RP at $5.75-$7 a qt is the same or less than Mobil 1 IN INDIVIDUAL QUART BOTTLES!

Not everyone buys the 5qt bulk jugs. Those aside the p/qt price I pay for RP is the same or less than p/qt prices for the name brand stuff even at WM. THAT was my point.

My lord some folks need help.
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How many times do you have to say the same thing over and over before people say "oh, ok he meant the price on individual qt bottles and he was not talking about the 5qt jug price".

I KNOW IT IS CHEAPER IN 5QT BULK BOTTLES!!!!!! RP is not available that way and not everyone can or does buy those bulk jugs. They are a seperate thing IMO.
 
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I have a feeling you are trying to say that if Royal Purple DID come in 5-quart jugs, it'd be just as cheap as Mobil 1/Pennzoil Platinum/etc. That's a fair point to make, and I'm pretty sure I agree.

Evidently, the people you are responding to don't really care. They are looking at the cost per oil change, period. Whether the oil comes in jugs, or quarts, or shotglasses doesn't make a difference. If they can get Oil A in jugs for less money than Oil B in quarts, they will pick Oil A.

The fact that Royal Purple doesn't come in jugs is irrelevant. No one shopping for oil is going to restrict themselves to quart bottles just because some manufacturers don't make jugs.
 
Originally Posted By: d00df00d
I have a feeling you are trying to say that if Royal Purple DID come in 5-quart jugs, it'd be just as cheap as Mobil 1/Pennzoil Platinum/etc. That's a fair point to make, and I'm pretty sure I agree.

Evidently, the people you are responding to don't really care. They are looking at the cost per oil change, period. Whether the oil comes in jugs, or quarts, or shotglasses doesn't make a difference. If they can get Oil A in jugs for less money than Oil B in quarts, they will pick Oil A.

The fact that Royal Purple doesn't come in jugs is irrelevant. No one shopping for oil is going to restrict themselves to quart bottles just because some manufacturers don't make jugs.


I will disagree( respectfully )that because RP( or any oil )does not come in bulk jugs is irrelevant to a price discussion. As I pointed out earlier the individual bottle( ie; p/qt )price is relevant to many people. Either because...

A - you need more than 5qts p/OC as in my case( 7 qts ) and thus the overall OC cost at the end may be the same or less. as I pointed out earlier it is JUST $0.27 more for me to buy (7)1 qt bottles of RP than it is to buy a 5 qt jug and then (2)1 qt bottles of M1 at Wal-Mart

OR

B - you use less than 5qts p/OC and don't want to bother with measuring out 4 qts and having that left over qt to deal with. Many people, and I have read it from people here, feel thatw ay and to them the p/qt price of individual bottles matters because they can't/don't use the 5qt bulk jugs.

A lot of people do not buy bulk jugs. Also, what if the local Wal-Mart is out of or stops carrying your brand/weight in a 5QT jug? You read time and again on here that people run into this when they go there for oil. Very common for them not to have what you want so that cheaper price becomes irrelevant if you can't buy it.

Here is what I mean from personal experience. I have 4 Wal-Marts within a 20-30 minute drive of me and I have been to all of them looking for a specific weight/brand of oil in the 5QT jug and they were all out and a couple even stopped carrying it( QS HP in 5W-30 and PP in 5W-20 ). That meant the individual bottle price mattered big time.

There are also other oil mfg's, like RP, that do not offer bulk jugs at all such as Amsoil, Redline, Schaeffers, Brad Penn, Kendall, etc... To those folks who use that oil the individual qt price matter and the 5QT bulk price at Wal-Mart does not. Not everyone places the botom line final price as their #1 purchasing factor. I think a lot of people forget that.

No one is discounting the savings offered in those 5QT bulk jugs sold at Wal-Mart least of all me. Heck, I wish Wal-Mart sold RP in 5QT jugs for $20-$25 like it does with the brands it carries. They don't so I have no choice but to search for the cheapest qt bottle price I can find for RP and that price is the same or less than the qt bottle prices on oil at Wal-Mart( synthetics excluding el cheapo ST ). That 5QT bulk jug price just does not always apply to everyone and even with them I have shown to do an OC on a specific vehicle you can still meet or beat the cost when you add in those extra qts needed.

Have a good day.
 
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That's kind of funny u guys that say Royal purple doesn't come in 5 qt jugs because I saw the royal purple jugs at autozone or advanced auto for $35.00 i'm pretty sure it was auto zone but I could find out for sure, so yes they do make it
 
I have never seen or heard of RP in 5 qt jug and I was in both AZ & AA this week and saw nothing.





Originally Posted By: toyotaguy
That's kind of funny u guys that say Royal purple doesn't come in 5 qt jugs because I saw the royal purple jugs at autozone or advanced auto for $35.00 i'm pretty sure it was auto zone but I could find out for sure, so yes they do make it
 
I know the 15W40 comes in gallons, I have some in the garage. As to the other grades, the answer is simple, www.royalpurple.com>. For those too lazy to check, call the dog in and see if he's wet.
 
How do u compare royal p with Lucas I mean I know amsoil and relive are top oils but I think the Lucas analogy is a stretch
 
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