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Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
I can tell you that there is at least one poster in this thread bashing RP though that by their own past admissions has never even tried it.
Sorry for the lengthy response. Some of these folks get me pretty riled up when they start this.
That would be me
He gets riled up over people bashing an oil? I like PP. I could give two [censored] if anybody bashes PP, amsoil, M1, valvoline... whatever.
Nope never used RP and unless I get it really cheap, I wont be using it. There are other oils out there that perform better for the same price, but most of the time, a lot cheaper.
I can tell you that there is at least one poster in this thread bashing RP though that by their own past admissions has never even tried it.
Sorry for the lengthy response. Some of these folks get me pretty riled up when they start this.
That would be me
He gets riled up over people bashing an oil? I like PP. I could give two [censored] if anybody bashes PP, amsoil, M1, valvoline... whatever.
Nope never used RP and unless I get it really cheap, I wont be using it. There are other oils out there that perform better for the same price, but most of the time, a lot cheaper.
Originally Posted By: 02zx9r
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
I can tell you that there is at least one poster in this thread bashing RP though that by their own past admissions has never even tried it.
Sorry for the lengthy response. Some of these folks get me pretty riled up when they start this.
That would be me
He gets riled up over people bashing an oil? I like PP. I could give two [censored] if anybody bashes PP, amsoil, M1, valvoline... whatever.
Nope never used RP and unless I get it really cheap, I wont be using it. There are other oils out there that perform better for the same price, but most of the time, a lot cheaper.
And without ever using Royal Purple you can not make the statement you just made with any validity. Thank you for proving my point.
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
I can tell you that there is at least one poster in this thread bashing RP though that by their own past admissions has never even tried it.
Sorry for the lengthy response. Some of these folks get me pretty riled up when they start this.
That would be me
He gets riled up over people bashing an oil? I like PP. I could give two [censored] if anybody bashes PP, amsoil, M1, valvoline... whatever.
Nope never used RP and unless I get it really cheap, I wont be using it. There are other oils out there that perform better for the same price, but most of the time, a lot cheaper.
And without ever using Royal Purple you can not make the statement you just made with any validity. Thank you for proving my point.
Byron, Welcome.
For your Tercel, you may want to consider Toyota's own brand 0W-20.
It's one of the cheapest syn's you can get in Canada at $4.49/L and the spec's are amazing.
40C vis 39.3 cSt, 100C vis 8.8 cSt. VI 214.
For your Tercel, you may want to consider Toyota's own brand 0W-20.
It's one of the cheapest syn's you can get in Canada at $4.49/L and the spec's are amazing.
40C vis 39.3 cSt, 100C vis 8.8 cSt. VI 214.
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
To the OP;
IF you want to try RP just shop for the best price.
Which is impossible to find because it is grossly overpriced and doesn't compare to PP which has sold for 1/8 the price recently at Walmart (with rebate).
So, if money is no object and you want an oil that shears quickly out of grade RP is there on the shelf next to multiple oils that are better for less money. JMHO
However, if you want a superior oil at a fraction of the cost that has been proven over and over on this site with UOA's in a multitude of different engines...can I recommend Pennzoil Platinum.
To the OP;
IF you want to try RP just shop for the best price.
Which is impossible to find because it is grossly overpriced and doesn't compare to PP which has sold for 1/8 the price recently at Walmart (with rebate).
So, if money is no object and you want an oil that shears quickly out of grade RP is there on the shelf next to multiple oils that are better for less money. JMHO
However, if you want a superior oil at a fraction of the cost that has been proven over and over on this site with UOA's in a multitude of different engines...can I recommend Pennzoil Platinum.
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Originally Posted By: 02zx9r
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
I can tell you that there is at least one poster in this thread bashing RP though that by their own past admissions has never even tried it.
Sorry for the lengthy response. Some of these folks get me pretty riled up when they start this.
That would be me
He gets riled up over people bashing an oil? I like PP. I could give two [censored] if anybody bashes PP, amsoil, M1, valvoline... whatever.
Nope never used RP and unless I get it really cheap, I wont be using it. There are other oils out there that perform better for the same price, but most of the time, a lot cheaper.
And without ever using Royal Purple you can not make the statement you just made with any validity. Thank you for proving my point.
Who needs to get run over by a bus to know that it hurts?
Originally Posted By: 02zx9r
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
I can tell you that there is at least one poster in this thread bashing RP though that by their own past admissions has never even tried it.
Sorry for the lengthy response. Some of these folks get me pretty riled up when they start this.
That would be me
He gets riled up over people bashing an oil? I like PP. I could give two [censored] if anybody bashes PP, amsoil, M1, valvoline... whatever.
Nope never used RP and unless I get it really cheap, I wont be using it. There are other oils out there that perform better for the same price, but most of the time, a lot cheaper.
And without ever using Royal Purple you can not make the statement you just made with any validity. Thank you for proving my point.
Who needs to get run over by a bus to know that it hurts?
i use RP oil in my 400hp+ turbo honda and RP syncromax trans fluid in the gear box.
engine and trans never ran so smoothly...they are good oils....everyone on here over analyzes every detail and every UOA submitted and like to put the blaim on what they think is poor quality oil rather than the fact they drive a turd with a beatup engine to begin with.
i agree with some others that it's a little on the expensive side...but still cheaper than redline/amsoil and some mobil products so it's still a good value in some cases.
engine and trans never ran so smoothly...they are good oils....everyone on here over analyzes every detail and every UOA submitted and like to put the blaim on what they think is poor quality oil rather than the fact they drive a turd with a beatup engine to begin with.
i agree with some others that it's a little on the expensive side...but still cheaper than redline/amsoil and some mobil products so it's still a good value in some cases.
Originally Posted By: lui
i use RP oil in my 400hp+ turbo honda and RP syncromax trans fluid in the gear box.
engine and trans never ran so smoothly...they are good oils....everyone on here over analyzes every detail and every UOA submitted and like to put the blaim on what they think is poor quality oil rather than the fact they drive a turd with a beatup engine to begin with.
i agree with some others that it's a little on the expensive side...but still cheaper than redline/amsoil and some mobil products so it's still a good value in some cases.
What you said is sadly very true, people do not think of any other of the many other possible factors as to why the results were the way they are. They just want to blame one thing and normally it is just because of what it is either oil or the filter choice. They do not look into or inquire about anything else. I laugh at the peer rpessure some people feel on this site. If they can be talking into believing some things on a forum, I bet it is even worse in person.
i use RP oil in my 400hp+ turbo honda and RP syncromax trans fluid in the gear box.
engine and trans never ran so smoothly...they are good oils....everyone on here over analyzes every detail and every UOA submitted and like to put the blaim on what they think is poor quality oil rather than the fact they drive a turd with a beatup engine to begin with.
i agree with some others that it's a little on the expensive side...but still cheaper than redline/amsoil and some mobil products so it's still a good value in some cases.
What you said is sadly very true, people do not think of any other of the many other possible factors as to why the results were the way they are. They just want to blame one thing and normally it is just because of what it is either oil or the filter choice. They do not look into or inquire about anything else. I laugh at the peer rpessure some people feel on this site. If they can be talking into believing some things on a forum, I bet it is even worse in person.
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Originally Posted By: 02zx9r
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
I can tell you that there is at least one poster in this thread bashing RP though that by their own past admissions has never even tried it.
Sorry for the lengthy response. Some of these folks get me pretty riled up when they start this.
That would be me
He gets riled up over people bashing an oil? I like PP. I could give two [censored] if anybody bashes PP, amsoil, M1, valvoline... whatever.
Nope never used RP and unless I get it really cheap, I wont be using it. There are other oils out there that perform better for the same price, but most of the time, a lot cheaper.
And without ever using Royal Purple you can not make the statement you just made with any validity. Thank you for proving my point.
Hi,
NHHEMI, a little off topic butyour first post in this thread was AWESOME. Got to have big kahones to rep RP all day every day and I admire you for that. A question I have for you is, what is your experience with Royal Purple that has you using it since 1990? I ask because like you said, most people bash it without trying it so I'd love to find out from an actual user their actual experience and outcome with this oil. I am a big fan of Royal Purple gear oil and have used them with great success. Admittedly I have wanted to try Royal Purple motor oil because of the great experience I have had with the gear oils but this site has somewhat made me shy away from it.
I am a big believer in the reasoning that if I try one line of product from a particular company and have good success with it then most likely that company will have quality products throughout their line-up. For example, I love anything by Shell and therefore I use their gas, fuel additive(Gumout regane)and obviously before going to red line used PP for oil. Now I can say the same about Royal Purple, I have tried their ATF and 75w90 gear oil and I can say that my tranny shifts buttery smooth and is precise going thru gears. Then there was a lot of chatter on this site about their oil filters and since I was going by a pepboys, I decided to go in and look at one. I was AMAZED at how heavy this filter was and this was a tiny filter for my TL. I was impressed so much so that I forked over $15 just to try it. So far their products have impressed me and therefore I just may try their motor oil because if a company makes such good product I don't understand how their motor oils wouldn't be just as impressive.
Originally Posted By: 02zx9r
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
I can tell you that there is at least one poster in this thread bashing RP though that by their own past admissions has never even tried it.
Sorry for the lengthy response. Some of these folks get me pretty riled up when they start this.
That would be me
He gets riled up over people bashing an oil? I like PP. I could give two [censored] if anybody bashes PP, amsoil, M1, valvoline... whatever.
Nope never used RP and unless I get it really cheap, I wont be using it. There are other oils out there that perform better for the same price, but most of the time, a lot cheaper.
And without ever using Royal Purple you can not make the statement you just made with any validity. Thank you for proving my point.
Hi,
NHHEMI, a little off topic butyour first post in this thread was AWESOME. Got to have big kahones to rep RP all day every day and I admire you for that. A question I have for you is, what is your experience with Royal Purple that has you using it since 1990? I ask because like you said, most people bash it without trying it so I'd love to find out from an actual user their actual experience and outcome with this oil. I am a big fan of Royal Purple gear oil and have used them with great success. Admittedly I have wanted to try Royal Purple motor oil because of the great experience I have had with the gear oils but this site has somewhat made me shy away from it.
I am a big believer in the reasoning that if I try one line of product from a particular company and have good success with it then most likely that company will have quality products throughout their line-up. For example, I love anything by Shell and therefore I use their gas, fuel additive(Gumout regane)and obviously before going to red line used PP for oil. Now I can say the same about Royal Purple, I have tried their ATF and 75w90 gear oil and I can say that my tranny shifts buttery smooth and is precise going thru gears. Then there was a lot of chatter on this site about their oil filters and since I was going by a pepboys, I decided to go in and look at one. I was AMAZED at how heavy this filter was and this was a tiny filter for my TL. I was impressed so much so that I forked over $15 just to try it. So far their products have impressed me and therefore I just may try their motor oil because if a company makes such good product I don't understand how their motor oils wouldn't be just as impressive.
In my opinion Amsoil, Red line and Royal Purple all make excellent products. I've used RP a number of times with a couple of very good Blackstone reports on 5W/20.
I have a Dana 70 axle with 75,000 miles on it's RP 75W/90.
How's the RP gear oil doing? Heck if I know. But no noises or leaks. But soon i'll be changing over the axle to Amsoil or maybe Redline.
For the record I usually use Castrol GTX for motor oil
I have a Dana 70 axle with 75,000 miles on it's RP 75W/90.
How's the RP gear oil doing? Heck if I know. But no noises or leaks. But soon i'll be changing over the axle to Amsoil or maybe Redline.
For the record I usually use Castrol GTX for motor oil
Fair post from NHHEMI, even though the BP article was interesting, as a botique, non mainstream oil, it will always carry some type of stigma, heck Castrol Edge is classified as a [censored] oil on here for being overpriced ! Mobil 1 gets bagged but has a highly effective defense mechanism hehe
. All in all Pennzoil platinum seems the best oil on here, wether they have people on here who push it well, in all fairness it never gets bagged, and it has tests to show its worth. If i use Australia for an example, Royal Purple imported from the U.S is $90 U.S dollars, so it carries more wank/guilt factor for those who use it, but guess what ! Pennzoil platinum is $70-$80, Euro and 5w30 version even more ! And its only a group 3, Castrol Edge and Mobil 1 are $69 for common grades. Valvoline Synpower can be had for $45-50.
My lastest record, i just did a Auto-RX clean with Shell Helix Ultra 5w40, currently on Mobil Delvac MX and have Castrol Edge 10w60 waiting on the shelf as i got it cheap. I will settle with Delvac MX or a semi synth from Mobil, Shell or Valvo, etc and keep using that.
My lastest record, i just did a Auto-RX clean with Shell Helix Ultra 5w40, currently on Mobil Delvac MX and have Castrol Edge 10w60 waiting on the shelf as i got it cheap. I will settle with Delvac MX or a semi synth from Mobil, Shell or Valvo, etc and keep using that.
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Originally Posted By: deven
Hi,
NHHEMI, a little off topic butyour first post in this thread was AWESOME. Got to have big kahones to rep RP all day every day and I admire you for that. A question I have for you is, what is your experience with Royal Purple that has you using it since 1990? I ask because like you said, most people bash it without trying it so I'd love to find out from an actual user their actual experience and outcome with this oil. I am a big fan of Royal Purple gear oil and have used them with great success. Admittedly I have wanted to try Royal Purple motor oil because of the great experience I have had with the gear oils but this site has somewhat made me shy away from it.
I am a big believer in the reasoning that if I try one line of product from a particular company and have good success with it then most likely that company will have quality products throughout their line-up. For example, I love anything by Shell and therefore I use their gas, fuel additive(Gumout regane)and obviously before going to red line used PP for oil. Now I can say the same about Royal Purple, I have tried their ATF and 75w90 gear oil and I can say that my tranny shifts buttery smooth and is precise going thru gears. Then there was a lot of chatter on this site about their oil filters and since I was going by a pepboys, I decided to go in and look at one. I was AMAZED at how heavy this filter was and this was a tiny filter for my TL. I was impressed so much so that I forked over $15 just to try it. So far their products have impressed me and therefore I just may try their motor oil because if a company makes such good product I don't understand how their motor oils wouldn't be just as impressive.
If people on here think they can bully me into not using RP or not saying I like it they are very misguided.
It has worked great for me and I will say that when it is appropriate. I actually recommend oils OTHER THAN RP all the time. I am very open minded when it comes to oil. Unlike some here who take every chance there is to tear RP down I do not take every chance to push it forth. I do so when I think it is the right choice. I talk about Kendal GT1, PP, and Valvoline Synpower synthetics as well as Redline and Schaeffers a lot too. I have the experience with RP though to back up what I say good about it and will do so despite the few with a proven track record of bashing it solely to do so...
My experience is simply using it in almost everything that I have owned since approx 1990. I also sold it, briefly, near the end of my parts career. I was initially turned onto it, and convinced to start using it, by my speed shop guy. I had built a hi perf MOPAR small block with parts I got from him. He asked what oil I was going to run. I said probably GTX or QS as they are what I always had run. He suggested I try Royal Purple and he then explained the benefits of synthetic oils overall and especially in a hi-perf application. I tried it, was very happy with it, and have stayed with it ever since. I became a synthetic oil convert thanks to RP.
I have used RP products in general, not just the oil, in most everything I own since that 1st usage. That would be daily drivers( cars, trucks, suv's ), muscle cars and hot rods, and even my yard equipment and boat. I have used it in motorcycles as well. I am currently running it in my 2008 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7L HEMI even though it does not fully meet warranty requirements( only API SL - no Starburst seal as required )because I know that it will do the job and do it well. I also find that RP allows my vehicles to run smoother and quieter than any other brand I have ever tried. Just like "buttah" as you mentioned. I have no fears of problems using it. On new vehicles under waranty I do stick to 5K OC's or use the OLM but on a vehicle with no warranty I have used it to 10-12K( a few as high as 15K ).
In addition to my usage many in my family use it as do friends. I have had ZERO problems with it and I know of NO ONE who has personally. I am not saying it has never performed poorly for people. It has just as any oil you want to name has at some point. There is a guy on here with a hopped up HEMI( Grampshemi or something like that? )that RP oil did a poor job in( the XPR Racing oil I think ). I think BuickGN, another member, also tried it with poor results? As I said it isn't always the best option and it won't always perform great. No oil is the best nor will it peform great in every application. Not RP, not Amsoil, not PP, etc...
In my experience out in the real world, and not based off internet forum trash talking where truth and honesty are many times questionable( I don't mean Gramps or BuickGN - you get to know who is honest and who is full of it after a while ), I have seen RP perform to the highest level. In person, actually using it, you can see the results 1st hand. Before anyone makes a judgement on RP or any product use it 1st to see for yourself unless EVERY thing you read is a horror story( not the case with RP - more good than bad I think even here where it is beat up the most - usually by the same small handful of posters so it isn't a huge and constantly changing group trashing it - just seems that way ).
I have not come across a single problem running it and that is the 100% truth. That would be using it from sedate to wild. I have used it in engines we drag raced and rebuilt( just to see how they were holding up )and the insides were amazing. I also run the entire line of RP products with nothing but excellent results. In additon to their oil I have run their MaxGear gear oil, their MaxATF and Synchromax tranny fluids, and their Purple Ice coolant additive. I have also used their other products like their MaxFilm lubricant( great for boats that see saltwater and also as a gun lubricant ). ALL have performed flawlessly for me. I am now using their oil filters and am happy once again.
I have no problem with people not wanting to run it. My posts are NEVER to try and fool people or bully them into using it. I could care less. That is their right. I just get ticked off when people start shoveling the bull and we have it deep in this thread. If you haven't run it then be upfront about that #1 and #2 if you haven't how can you say anything about how it performs to begin with? If you actually used it and it did poorly for you ok. Say that BUT don't start labeling it the worst product ever and saying it will do that in other applications. You have no clue how it will perform for others. I do not doubt FastSUV had a bad experience with the MaxGear. Why would he lie? However, I have run it in GM, Chrysler, and Ford vehicles countless times and it always worked great. I certainly will not stop using it because he thinks it is bad or because some infantile poster with a hair across for RP( that has never used it )likes to bash on it.
I get RP for the same or even LESS than you can get the name brand oils p/ individual qt at Wal-Mart. PT1 likes to bash RP over price among other things. He loves to praise PP. PP is great oil. I have used it and would again. He is entitled to like PP and tell others to use it. I would not dream of telling him otherwise even though I disagree it is better than RP as he thinks. His right to think what he wants.
No bash from me. However, the cheapest place for PP here in qts, regular price, is Wal-Mart. The last time I looked it was $6.59 p/qt. I know you can get it in bulk jugs for less but I am talking 1qt prices. I saw it at PepBoys the other day on sale for $5.99 p/qt marked down from their regular $6.99. Most of the national parts chains here sell PP for $6.99 p/qt regular price as well.
I pay on average $5.75-$6.50 p/qt through my source for RP oil. That is LESS than PP so it shows his point is not valid. You can get RP for less than/the same as other brands. It all depends on how much advance notice I can give him to order it for me. Cost varies by what warehouse he gets it from and the required turn around time determines that. My 2nd source is another local speed shop. I actually JUST had to grab 2 qts there because I needed it in like an hour and my regular guy orders it. I paid exactly $7.00 a qt( + tax - darn Massachusetts
). People that complain about the price do so because they use national parts chains to base the whining on. I already said those places charge too much. If you shop around you can find it for very competitive pricing most times. Not always but most times. I would not pay $9 a qt for it either. I wouldn't pay that for ANY oil( based on what oils go for at this time )never mind RP.
I admit my UOA's of RP oils are limited. I have done a few over the years( no I don't have them anymore - I included them with the maintenance history/receipts when the vehicle was sold )but mostly it is from a friend who was fascinated with it so he did it every OC( 10K on RP 5W-30 & a K&N filter in a 2001 Ram 1500 360 ). Both my UOA's and my friend's were always fine. NO shearing, no bad wear, etc... Always told the oil was good for longer service. That coupled with the fact I have torn down hi-perf engines run on it and I see no need to worry about how it is performing.
When it comes to RP UOA's on this site take a lot of this talk of all these bad ones with some skeptisiscm. #1 there are only a few that are actually "bad". As I said above another member about a year ago bumped all he could find and overwhelmingly they were very, very, good. Also, most of the bad ones are from just ONE run on it. Because the initial run was bad the poster bailed on it and didn't do another OC or 2 and then recheck to see how it changed. ANY oil requires a few OC's on the oil to get used to it so to speak and return an accurate UOA. The 1st OC on an oil is always the worst as far as a UOA would go. That is brought up on all other brands when a bad UOA shows up, or the poster is asked if there are other problems contributing to it as another poster mentioned, but not so with RP. A bad UOA means it is horrid oil period end of story and nothing you will say to explain it will matter to some folks. Their minds are made up and nothing will change it.
I use it because it has done well for me. What else can I say? What makes me laugh is you can take 100 posts like mine in praise of it but you get people focusing on one or 2 loud mouths, who may not have even used it, and THAT is what gets believed by the masses. Not the info from guys who use it and like it but rather those THAT love to trash it while never having used it. Again I will say I never try and influence anyone one way or the other( unless I am specifically asked ). I actually have used it, and used it a LOT in varied applications, and it has always performed well. Some here have never used it, or only used it once, and they claim it is the worst oil ever. Who should you believe or listen to? The ones who used the product or those who just like to shoot their mouth off with nothing to back up their statements
PS - if you PM me I can direct you to a source in MA where RP is $7.00 a qt. May not be close enough for you but worth a shot. Good place and they do work and everything. They did my exhaust system too. Their pricing is very fair. I am going to have them do my F&R diff service here pretty soon with the RP. I already have the 75W-90 for the front but for them to do the work and supply the 75W-140 for the rear will be just $80 total. Great place.
Sorry this was so long, again, but wanted to try and answer your question as best I could.
Hi,
NHHEMI, a little off topic butyour first post in this thread was AWESOME. Got to have big kahones to rep RP all day every day and I admire you for that. A question I have for you is, what is your experience with Royal Purple that has you using it since 1990? I ask because like you said, most people bash it without trying it so I'd love to find out from an actual user their actual experience and outcome with this oil. I am a big fan of Royal Purple gear oil and have used them with great success. Admittedly I have wanted to try Royal Purple motor oil because of the great experience I have had with the gear oils but this site has somewhat made me shy away from it.
I am a big believer in the reasoning that if I try one line of product from a particular company and have good success with it then most likely that company will have quality products throughout their line-up. For example, I love anything by Shell and therefore I use their gas, fuel additive(Gumout regane)and obviously before going to red line used PP for oil. Now I can say the same about Royal Purple, I have tried their ATF and 75w90 gear oil and I can say that my tranny shifts buttery smooth and is precise going thru gears. Then there was a lot of chatter on this site about their oil filters and since I was going by a pepboys, I decided to go in and look at one. I was AMAZED at how heavy this filter was and this was a tiny filter for my TL. I was impressed so much so that I forked over $15 just to try it. So far their products have impressed me and therefore I just may try their motor oil because if a company makes such good product I don't understand how their motor oils wouldn't be just as impressive.
If people on here think they can bully me into not using RP or not saying I like it they are very misguided.
My experience is simply using it in almost everything that I have owned since approx 1990. I also sold it, briefly, near the end of my parts career. I was initially turned onto it, and convinced to start using it, by my speed shop guy. I had built a hi perf MOPAR small block with parts I got from him. He asked what oil I was going to run. I said probably GTX or QS as they are what I always had run. He suggested I try Royal Purple and he then explained the benefits of synthetic oils overall and especially in a hi-perf application. I tried it, was very happy with it, and have stayed with it ever since. I became a synthetic oil convert thanks to RP.
I have used RP products in general, not just the oil, in most everything I own since that 1st usage. That would be daily drivers( cars, trucks, suv's ), muscle cars and hot rods, and even my yard equipment and boat. I have used it in motorcycles as well. I am currently running it in my 2008 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7L HEMI even though it does not fully meet warranty requirements( only API SL - no Starburst seal as required )because I know that it will do the job and do it well. I also find that RP allows my vehicles to run smoother and quieter than any other brand I have ever tried. Just like "buttah" as you mentioned. I have no fears of problems using it. On new vehicles under waranty I do stick to 5K OC's or use the OLM but on a vehicle with no warranty I have used it to 10-12K( a few as high as 15K ).
In addition to my usage many in my family use it as do friends. I have had ZERO problems with it and I know of NO ONE who has personally. I am not saying it has never performed poorly for people. It has just as any oil you want to name has at some point. There is a guy on here with a hopped up HEMI( Grampshemi or something like that? )that RP oil did a poor job in( the XPR Racing oil I think ). I think BuickGN, another member, also tried it with poor results? As I said it isn't always the best option and it won't always perform great. No oil is the best nor will it peform great in every application. Not RP, not Amsoil, not PP, etc...
In my experience out in the real world, and not based off internet forum trash talking where truth and honesty are many times questionable( I don't mean Gramps or BuickGN - you get to know who is honest and who is full of it after a while ), I have seen RP perform to the highest level. In person, actually using it, you can see the results 1st hand. Before anyone makes a judgement on RP or any product use it 1st to see for yourself unless EVERY thing you read is a horror story( not the case with RP - more good than bad I think even here where it is beat up the most - usually by the same small handful of posters so it isn't a huge and constantly changing group trashing it - just seems that way ).
I have not come across a single problem running it and that is the 100% truth. That would be using it from sedate to wild. I have used it in engines we drag raced and rebuilt( just to see how they were holding up )and the insides were amazing. I also run the entire line of RP products with nothing but excellent results. In additon to their oil I have run their MaxGear gear oil, their MaxATF and Synchromax tranny fluids, and their Purple Ice coolant additive. I have also used their other products like their MaxFilm lubricant( great for boats that see saltwater and also as a gun lubricant ). ALL have performed flawlessly for me. I am now using their oil filters and am happy once again.
I have no problem with people not wanting to run it. My posts are NEVER to try and fool people or bully them into using it. I could care less. That is their right. I just get ticked off when people start shoveling the bull and we have it deep in this thread. If you haven't run it then be upfront about that #1 and #2 if you haven't how can you say anything about how it performs to begin with? If you actually used it and it did poorly for you ok. Say that BUT don't start labeling it the worst product ever and saying it will do that in other applications. You have no clue how it will perform for others. I do not doubt FastSUV had a bad experience with the MaxGear. Why would he lie? However, I have run it in GM, Chrysler, and Ford vehicles countless times and it always worked great. I certainly will not stop using it because he thinks it is bad or because some infantile poster with a hair across for RP( that has never used it )likes to bash on it.
I get RP for the same or even LESS than you can get the name brand oils p/ individual qt at Wal-Mart. PT1 likes to bash RP over price among other things. He loves to praise PP. PP is great oil. I have used it and would again. He is entitled to like PP and tell others to use it. I would not dream of telling him otherwise even though I disagree it is better than RP as he thinks. His right to think what he wants.
I pay on average $5.75-$6.50 p/qt through my source for RP oil. That is LESS than PP so it shows his point is not valid. You can get RP for less than/the same as other brands. It all depends on how much advance notice I can give him to order it for me. Cost varies by what warehouse he gets it from and the required turn around time determines that. My 2nd source is another local speed shop. I actually JUST had to grab 2 qts there because I needed it in like an hour and my regular guy orders it. I paid exactly $7.00 a qt( + tax - darn Massachusetts
I admit my UOA's of RP oils are limited. I have done a few over the years( no I don't have them anymore - I included them with the maintenance history/receipts when the vehicle was sold )but mostly it is from a friend who was fascinated with it so he did it every OC( 10K on RP 5W-30 & a K&N filter in a 2001 Ram 1500 360 ). Both my UOA's and my friend's were always fine. NO shearing, no bad wear, etc... Always told the oil was good for longer service. That coupled with the fact I have torn down hi-perf engines run on it and I see no need to worry about how it is performing.
When it comes to RP UOA's on this site take a lot of this talk of all these bad ones with some skeptisiscm. #1 there are only a few that are actually "bad". As I said above another member about a year ago bumped all he could find and overwhelmingly they were very, very, good. Also, most of the bad ones are from just ONE run on it. Because the initial run was bad the poster bailed on it and didn't do another OC or 2 and then recheck to see how it changed. ANY oil requires a few OC's on the oil to get used to it so to speak and return an accurate UOA. The 1st OC on an oil is always the worst as far as a UOA would go. That is brought up on all other brands when a bad UOA shows up, or the poster is asked if there are other problems contributing to it as another poster mentioned, but not so with RP. A bad UOA means it is horrid oil period end of story and nothing you will say to explain it will matter to some folks. Their minds are made up and nothing will change it.
I use it because it has done well for me. What else can I say? What makes me laugh is you can take 100 posts like mine in praise of it but you get people focusing on one or 2 loud mouths, who may not have even used it, and THAT is what gets believed by the masses. Not the info from guys who use it and like it but rather those THAT love to trash it while never having used it. Again I will say I never try and influence anyone one way or the other( unless I am specifically asked ). I actually have used it, and used it a LOT in varied applications, and it has always performed well. Some here have never used it, or only used it once, and they claim it is the worst oil ever. Who should you believe or listen to? The ones who used the product or those who just like to shoot their mouth off with nothing to back up their statements
PS - if you PM me I can direct you to a source in MA where RP is $7.00 a qt. May not be close enough for you but worth a shot. Good place and they do work and everything. They did my exhaust system too. Their pricing is very fair. I am going to have them do my F&R diff service here pretty soon with the RP. I already have the 75W-90 for the front but for them to do the work and supply the 75W-140 for the rear will be just $80 total. Great place.
Sorry this was so long, again, but wanted to try and answer your question as best I could.
There is a BIG difference between what Royal Purple did/does to advertise their products and what the other companies do.
There is also a difference between what gives Royal Purple a bad rep and what gives the other companies a bad rep.
Yes, Royal Purple is decent oil. Yes, it has followers who know what they are talking about. Yes, many people have had success with Royal Purple. But if we're going to compare companies and reputations, let's keep it real. The fact that people have favorites doesn't mean they're all equivalent.
There is also a difference between what gives Royal Purple a bad rep and what gives the other companies a bad rep.
Yes, Royal Purple is decent oil. Yes, it has followers who know what they are talking about. Yes, many people have had success with Royal Purple. But if we're going to compare companies and reputations, let's keep it real. The fact that people have favorites doesn't mean they're all equivalent.
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There is a BIG difference between what Royal Purple did/does to advertise their products and what the other companies do.
There is also a difference between what gives Royal Purple a bad rep and what gives the other companies a bad rep.
Yes, Royal Purple is decent oil. Yes, it has followers who know what they are talking about. Yes, many people have had success with Royal Purple. But if we're going to compare companies and reputations, let's keep it real. The fact that people have favorites doesn't mean they're all equivalent.
1 - I did not bring up the reputation part of it. Not once.
2 - other companies make the same type of ridiculous and misleading statements RP was accused of. The people that got RP into it( BP/Castrol )got in trouble themselves shortly thereafter for doing similar things.
3 - You are right. All oils are not equal. Said so.
4 - You are 100% right again in that what gives RP a bad rep differs from what gives other companies a bad rep. As a rule it is rumor, myth, things unrelated to actual product performance, or some kind of personal bias from people with little or no actual usage experince to back it up when it comes to RP on this site anwyay. At least when another company gets a bad rep for some reason it is actually based on real problems with the product not infantile and baseless bashing because of color, price, or god knows what sets so many off.
Let me be clear here if you have USED it and it did poorly that is cool. It happens. Bashing a product you have never used however and telling people it will perform poorly for them is absolutely ridiculous. That is like telling someone brand X potato chips taste like crud if you have never eaten one yourself. You can also say that RP is over priced at places like PepBoys, Autozone, etc... if you want but don't make blanket statements that it is overprice everyhwere because I have shown I can get it for less than other oils with inferior make up. Don't tell people it is bad based on all the bad UOA's on this site because the FACT is there are very few bad ones here. THAT is the kind of thing that sets me off and makes me repond as I do.
Outright false statemments( like telling people it is Grp III or even a Dino oil or blend as I have seen )and bashing of a product with no personal experience to back it up is stupid. Having one set of standards for just ONE oil on this site and a different set for the other brands is also stupid. I am sorry. I am not trying to break site rules and attack anyone but the RP bashing here gets acarried away BIG TIME!
There is a BIG difference between what Royal Purple did/does to advertise their products and what the other companies do.
There is also a difference between what gives Royal Purple a bad rep and what gives the other companies a bad rep.
Yes, Royal Purple is decent oil. Yes, it has followers who know what they are talking about. Yes, many people have had success with Royal Purple. But if we're going to compare companies and reputations, let's keep it real. The fact that people have favorites doesn't mean they're all equivalent.
1 - I did not bring up the reputation part of it. Not once.
2 - other companies make the same type of ridiculous and misleading statements RP was accused of. The people that got RP into it( BP/Castrol )got in trouble themselves shortly thereafter for doing similar things.
3 - You are right. All oils are not equal. Said so.
4 - You are 100% right again in that what gives RP a bad rep differs from what gives other companies a bad rep. As a rule it is rumor, myth, things unrelated to actual product performance, or some kind of personal bias from people with little or no actual usage experince to back it up when it comes to RP on this site anwyay. At least when another company gets a bad rep for some reason it is actually based on real problems with the product not infantile and baseless bashing because of color, price, or god knows what sets so many off.
Let me be clear here if you have USED it and it did poorly that is cool. It happens. Bashing a product you have never used however and telling people it will perform poorly for them is absolutely ridiculous. That is like telling someone brand X potato chips taste like crud if you have never eaten one yourself. You can also say that RP is over priced at places like PepBoys, Autozone, etc... if you want but don't make blanket statements that it is overprice everyhwere because I have shown I can get it for less than other oils with inferior make up. Don't tell people it is bad based on all the bad UOA's on this site because the FACT is there are very few bad ones here. THAT is the kind of thing that sets me off and makes me repond as I do.
Outright false statemments( like telling people it is Grp III or even a Dino oil or blend as I have seen )and bashing of a product with no personal experience to back it up is stupid. Having one set of standards for just ONE oil on this site and a different set for the other brands is also stupid. I am sorry. I am not trying to break site rules and attack anyone but the RP bashing here gets acarried away BIG TIME!
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