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Yup, see my edit above.

Also, can anybody confirm that there is in fact a speed increase on this section of road? One of the comments on the video indicates this is not the case and that the whole section is 50Mph posted.

The road is U.S. Highway 41 according to the news report.
 
Originally Posted By: exranger06
You apparently missed the part where he destroys a streetlight pole..

Apparently I did. My bad.
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I agree that both drivers were guilty of a number of things. The pickup truck driver obviously escalated it by riding along side, slowing down to get another look, then coming back for a little bird action. Classy to be sure. She was clearly in the wrong for trying to be a videographer while driving; if a LEO was around, maybe she'd have been cited for driving while distracted, or whatever the applicable offense is (I don't know if they have hands-free only laws there or not).

Either way, the pickup truck driver made the conscious decision to escalate the situation. He could have left well enough alone. If he would have let UP on the gas instead of applying more, neither of them would have made the news, and both would have driven home that night, hopefully in a safe fashion. We can point fingers all day long on "whose fault it is", but in the end, if someone chooses to be the bigger person, and everyone goes home safe and with no property damage, everybody wins.
 
The facts:
1)The lady's video was actually used by the Florida Highway Patrol to arrest the pickup driver on counts of careless driving, leaving the scene of an accident, and for not wearing a seat belt.
2)Florida Highway Patrol did not ticket this lady for any wrongdoing.

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Originally Posted By: GenSan
The facts:
1)The lady's video was actually used by the Florida Highway Patrol to arrest the pickup driver on counts of careless driving, leaving the scene of an accident, and for not wearing a seat belt.
2)Florida Highway Patrol did not ticket this lady for any wrongdoing.

LINK


Yeah, but there are people in this thread who don't understand that she didn't do anything wrong.
 
Originally Posted By: GenSan
The facts:
1)The lady's video was actually used by the Florida Highway Patrol to arrest the pickup driver on counts of careless driving, leaving the scene of an accident, and for not wearing a seat belt.
2)Florida Highway Patrol did not ticket this lady for any wrongdoing.

LINK


Because it isn't illegal to be using a cell phone in Florida while driving nor apparently for intentionally impeding the flow of traffic or baiting somebody into some form of "contest". As I said, in Ontario there are multiple laws that would apply to her behaviour here and would have resulted in severe penalties including the potential of a loss of her drivers license for a period of time. I'm sure the same goes for states that aren't Florida as well.

Being an idiot behind the wheel is just that. Just because it isn't illegal in a particular state doesn't mean the criticisms of her in this thread are misplaced.
 
I didn't see any traffic being impeded besides the idiot who would have tried to force anyone going below the max speed of his truck off the road. I would much rather her hold up a car or 3 while proceeding to safely navigate to the left turn lane she was aiming for rather the jerk across a lane of traffic cutting someone off before she passes it up.

On an interstate highway I would feel differently. This however, was not a highway, this is a simple 4 lane ROADway. Maybe I'm just used to it, my whole town is laid out like that and your impeded no matter where you go.
 
She claimed she only got the camera out as a last resort and didn't intentionally aggravate the situation. Maybe she has experienced this kind of driving on that stretch of highway before. It is a multi-lane suburban through way, not a high-speed interstate with 4 or 5 lanes, but rather entrances and exits from both lanes as well as at grade crossings. ON that kind of road the left lane is not necessarily the 'fast lane'.

As far as I know the man hasn't contested anything the woman said. Maybe we will eventually know more about exactly what happened, the video doesn't show everything.

I don't like being stuck behind slow drivers more than anyone else but if there were some reason I felt I didn't want to go faster than the limit and I had a left turn coming up I would sit in the left lane, too, and if someone tried to harass me into moving aside when I didn't think it was in my best interest I wouldn't do it. I don't know that I would pull out a video camera, but with some of these phones it is apparently a quick and easy thing to do, thus we have all of these videos like this, as well as videos of tornadoes, etc, that used to go un-witnessed but are now on Youtube for everybody to see.


I have experienced that kind of behavior where some guy pulls up behind me, drops back, accelerates again, hoping to part traffic like Moses parted the Red Sea, but if there is somebody in front of me, and somebody in front of them, and so on, we're all waiting to get around and I'm not going to pull aside just to let him take my place in line when I was there first.


It is too bad the guy wrecked a nice truck, he probably didn't really deserve that, but I am sure he has a more serious, realistic view of the possible consequences of irresponsible driving now, and it is unlikely he will continue to do that kind of thing in the future.

I'm not really a fan of people using phones while driving, but as long as they can do so reasonably, maintaining a legal speed, etc, which this woman did, I wouldn't want to see them completely disabled because they can be extremely useful sometimes. Despite many people probably using them for trivial matters I have found sometimes I need to make an important call and doing it on the road is my best option.
 
Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
I agree that both drivers were guilty of a number of things. The pickup truck driver obviously escalated it by riding along side, slowing down to get another look, then coming back for a little bird action. Classy to be sure.


"Why does the woman he's raging against appear to speed up when he is trying to pass? Is she egging him on?

The woman, who asked to remain anonymous, spoke to WTSP to give her side of the story. She said she sped up to match the speed limit increase on that section of road. She was driving safely, she said, keeping an eye on her mirrors and the road."
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/road-rage-incident-caught-on-video-goes-viral-151924238.html

Watch the video again, the pickup truck passed her on the right lane by about 40-50 ft, she sped up to pass him and may be preventing from getting to the left lane, he then sped up and gave her the bird.

She's clearly part of the problem, she clearly tried to control other drivers to not driving any faster than her.
 
Originally Posted By: GenSan
The facts:
1)The lady's video was actually used by the Florida Highway Patrol to arrest the pickup driver on counts of careless driving, leaving the scene of an accident, and for not wearing a seat belt.
2)Florida Highway Patrol did not ticket this lady for any wrongdoing.

LINK

Yes, yes, we get it. She did not break any laws. But the discussion has gone past that long time ago.
 
Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR
Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
I agree that both drivers were guilty of a number of things. The pickup truck driver obviously escalated it by riding along side, slowing down to get another look, then coming back for a little bird action. Classy to be sure.


"Why does the woman he's raging against appear to speed up when he is trying to pass? Is she egging him on?

The woman, who asked to remain anonymous, spoke to WTSP to give her side of the story. She said she sped up to match the speed limit increase on that section of road. She was driving safely, she said, keeping an eye on her mirrors and the road."
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/road-rage-incident-caught-on-video-goes-viral-151924238.html

Watch the video again, the pickup truck passed her on the right lane by about 40-50 ft, she sped up to pass him and may be preventing from getting to the left lane, he then sped up and gave her the bird.

She's clearly part of the problem, she clearly tried to control other drivers to not driving any faster than her.



I'm sorry, but as I was over a thousand miles away at the time, I don't share your apparent superior knowledge of the facts.

It's a low resolution video shot through car windows and hardly shows me any of the goings on around at the time.

Maybe there were some eye witnesses that know.

Were you in Florida last weekend?
 
The guy wrecked his truck and fled the scene. He prob was high on drugs. You need a police report for insurance claims too.
 
Originally Posted By: Cutehumor
The guy wrecked his truck and fled the scene. He prob was high on drugs. You need a police report for insurance claims too.



That could be. If he was in such a hurry I don't know why he didn't just continue on down the road when he got the chance.

I think the woman maybe should have tried putting on her left blinker, since she was eventually going to turn left. Maybe it would have inspired him to keep some distance.
 
I'm still trying to see where it's obvious that she sped up to not let him in. Looks to me like he purposely slowed down to smile at her and tell her she's #1. I can't see her being able to accelerate that car as quickly as he could have had he really been trying to go on his merry way.
 
Originally Posted By: Trajan
Originally Posted By: GenSan
The facts:
1)The lady's video was actually used by the Florida Highway Patrol to arrest the pickup driver on counts of careless driving, leaving the scene of an accident, and for not wearing a seat belt.
2)Florida Highway Patrol did not ticket this lady for any wrongdoing.

LINK


Yeah, but there are people in this thread who don't understand that she didn't do anything wrong.


Yes, she is such a little angel waving her phone around in the car and getting her jollies off escalating road rage. Such a sweet, sweet lady.
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Nobody here has denied the pickup driver is an idiot and a [censored], that much is blatantly clear, but this lady doesn't strike me as just being an innocent bystander who happened to have her phone out while totally paying attention to the road.
 
I'd be curious if the cop that swore out a complaint based on her video has any relationship to her.

If I were Mr. F150, I'd get me a lawyer and rip this up.

I took a ticket to court when an on duty wrote me a ticket based on the witness of an off duty. The off duty guy never showed. The Judge ripped the ADA and cop new [censored] holes. It took every bit of my heart and soul not to burst out laughing in court. I was so happy i actually peed a little.
 
Originally Posted By: 97f150
I'm still trying to see where it's obvious that she sped up to not let him in. Looks to me like he purposely slowed down to smile at her and tell her she's #1. I can't see her being able to accelerate that car as quickly as he could have had he really been trying to go on his merry way.
Unless she was driving a Bugati Vryon, I don't think she could have accelerated that fast but he could have braked easily.
 
I will concede I'm glad I don't live in Florida. Lots of retired people and I can imagine the roads get pretty clogged at times. Before my dad passed he had started running stop signs and once ended up miles south of town by accident and got caught making an illegal u-turn. He had always been a careful driver and had flown bombers in WWII

Still, if this lady had been my grandma making her monthly prescription run to the pharmacy I wouldn't recommend she drive any differently than how this woman did if she didn't feel comfortable (except the video recording).

If the F-150 driver wanted to take legal actions he should have video'd her, from a distance, to present his case that she was obstructing traffic, inducing road rage, whatever.

As it is, she has him on video driving erratically,repeatedly zooming up behind her and dropping back, later cutting sharply in front of her when he had room to put more distance, before that final, fantastic spin out. I doubt any lawyer would take his case, which seems basically non-existent to me.

I guess the roads were slicker than the video shows. I wonder if he will ever make comments on how that happened.
 
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