Indiana Folks: How are the Roads?

I'd venture to say that 90% of vehicles on the road in Indiana (Ohio, Illinois, etc) drive year-round on all-season tires and we get snow, ice, freezing rain, etc every winter. If you can, sure, avoid driving, but sometimes you have to. I personally don't know anyone that puts full-blown winter tires on their cars.
My buddy who lives in LaPorte does very well for himself has an F150, Enclave, Beetle, and C70, and not only has a separate winter set of wheels and snow tires for each vehicle, he rotates his stock by replacing one set of winters each year so none of the winter tires are older than 4 years or half the tread life. Yes, he’s different LOL!
 
Here’s a little tip: don’t ever drive on I-65 when it’s snowing and blowing. It’s literally a demolition derby when that happens; all of the overpasses freeze solid, and the drifts & ruts will pull the car all over the road until you’re no longer on it. An extra night stay is well worth the safety factor and not having to deal with insurance and car repairs or new car purchases.

I grew up in Gary, so I’ve got 20+ years of living with the disaster of I-65 from Gary to DeMotte.

That corridor has mystical winter powers amplified by the Southern tip of Lake Michigan, and this is an accurate description.

Grandparents on moms side are from Demotte and both worked at Inland steel.
Grandparents on dad side are from Wheatfield (10 min from DeMotte) and ran hogs and produce to Chicagoland area.

I know well the treachery of this stretch in a blizzard.
 
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That corridor has mystical winter powers amplified by the southern tip of lake Michigan, and this is an accurate description.

Grandparents on Moms side are from Demotte and both worked at Inland steel.
Grandparents on Dad side are from Wheatfield (10 min from DeMotte) and ran hogs and produce to Chicagoland area.

I know well the treachery of this stretch in a blizzard.
Small world, innit? 👍🏻

Lake effect weather conditions are no joke, and when combined with the flat open area and lots of overpasses, they’re perfect conditions for dangerous roadways.
 
I'd venture to say that 90% of vehicles on the road in Indiana (Ohio, Illinois, etc) drive year-round on all-season tires and we get snow, ice, freezing rain, etc every winter. If you can, sure, avoid driving, but sometimes you have to. I personally don't know anyone that puts full-blown winter tires on their cars.

Again, I'm well aware. There are those who don't buy snow tires where I live in an area that can and does get heavy snowfall every year. Those people struggle. All too often they end up in a ditch or crash, or stay home ( if they have that option) when the weather gets bad.

It's predictable. There's a heavy snowfall, a slew of crashes, and more often than not the Highway Patrol will show the completely inadequate tires on the crashed vehicles on the local News.

My point to John is that the tires on his Minivan could be a liability under the conditions his wife might have to drive through. So drive accordingly, or don't drive if it's too bad.

Yes, at home in TN all-seasons are just fine. Unfortunately, the wife and kids aren't in TN at the moment, and could find themselves in treacherous conditions.

I hope my concern is now clear.
 
Again, I'm well aware. There are those who don't buy snow tires where I live in an area that can and does get heavy snowfall every year. Those people struggle. All too often they end up in a ditch or crash, or stay home ( if they have that option) when the weather gets bad.

It's predictable. There's a heavy snowfall, a slew of crashes, and more often than not the Highway Patrol will show the completely inadequate tires on the crashed vehicles on the local News.

My point to John is that the tires on his Minivan could be a liability under the conditions his wife might have to drive through. So drive accordingly, or don't drive if it's too bad.

Yes, at home in TN all-seasons are just fine. Unfortunately, the wife and kids aren't in TN at the moment, and could find themselves in treacherous conditions.

I hope my concern is now clear.
Your concern is valid and well-taken.

After seeing the forecast, I was kicking myself a bit for going cheap and not spending the few hundred extra on my original choice - the Goodyear Assurance WeatherReady 2, which is an “All-Weather” 3PMS-rated, directional tire that is modeled strongly after the Michelin Cross Climate 2.

I am still happy with my choice of the Tour54, because for almost all of our driving, the extra snow/ice capability goes unused, and although the Tour54 isn’t super highly rated in winter conditions, it’s not horrible, and certainly a lot better than the tires of times past that our parents and grandparents made do with. Not to mention a lot of other drivers on the road who are running worn out crap tires.

And it helps that they’re brand-new with good, sharp biting edges.

But in times like this, it does make you wish you had that extra winter capability.

Anyway, since I don’t have to be back at work until Wednesday, I decided to rent a car one-way and drive up to Warsaw and drive them back. My area of Tennessee had zero availability of rental cars, so I drove to Evansville Airport (which is on the way) to get a rental. They didn’t get any snow that far south. Turned out that Avis was running a 50% off special for an upgrade, so I ended up with a pretty sweet rental - a loaded 4WD Telluride for only $100 total. So we’ll just swing back through on the way back tomorrow and pick up my Elantra N. Luckily it’s only $8 at day to park there.
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Not that I don’t trust my wife’s driving - far from it. But it’ll make me feel better to be driving them myself, and I’ll be there to help her with the kiddos (they’re 1, 2, 3, and 4 now), and I’ll be there in case anything were to happen.

Heck they’ve already had one minor but irritating incident on their trip that unfortunately resulted in damage to the 2024 Odyssey.

They were driving to thanksgiving dinner when they came to a traffic light. My wife and kids were in the left lane and an older woman was in her Chrysler Voyager in the turning lane. Suddenly the woman in the Voyager decided she wanted to get out of the turning lane and instead go straight. So what does she do? She throws it into reverse and attempts to back up and maneuver, in reverse, into the lane my wife is in.

My wife saw her heading directly towards her and sat on the horn. The woman kept coming, and the corner of the rear bumper hit my wife’s driver door. 🤦🏼‍♂️

I’m so mad about that. So dumb and unnecessary. Thankfully, I guess, apparently it didn’t dent the door, and just scratched/scuffed it. But still. We work hard to keep our vehicles nice, park far away in parking lots to avoid uncaring, unscrupulous people, and then someone pulls a random bonehead move like this in traffic.

The woman said she “was running late to Thanksgiving dinner”.
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Oh well. I’m just glad everyone was OK. Ill
Assess the damage and figure out whether to take it to a body shop on that woman’s insurance. Luckily she was insured, I guess.
 
I live in the Terre Haute area and drive a plow truck for work. Roads were pretty bad until around midnight last night. I heard there was a big pile up somewhere on 70 and other than that I only saw one vehicle in the ditch last night and I really wonder how they got there because the road they were driving on was totally clear.
 
I'd venture to say that 90% of vehicles on the road in Indiana (Ohio, Illinois, etc) drive year-round on all-season tires and we get snow, ice, freezing rain, etc every winter. If you can, sure, avoid driving, but sometimes you have to. I personally don't know anyone that puts full-blown winter tires on their cars.
Dedicated winter rubber is always a better performing option, but frankly it's often just not justifiable in terms of cost/benfit.


In south central Indiana, the snows that fall are infrequent enough and mild enough that a quality all weather or AS tire can work quite sufficiently for an AWD or even FWD vehicle. We get the occasional 6"-8" at once, but it's more like an every-3rd-year kind of occurrence.

I grew up in WI and ND, so I consider south central Indiana to be a pretty mild winter.

My is250 AWD on Nokian WRGs was unstoppable year round here. Winter rubber would have been a complete waste of money because no relevant additional capability would have been the result of the money spent.

Likewise for my GX on Defender MS2s. I could get winter rubber for it, but it's basically unstoppable on the MS2s, so what's the ROI for the considerable expense?

Now, if I was a Region type, that's a different story altogether.


My Accord in the awful OEM Primacys is absolutely the worse winter vehicle we have. My old Odyssey on Nokians is far better. Stupid 19" wheels with 40 series rubber. SMH.
 
Im about 30 mins SE of Warsaw. I am not sure how much snow they received, but I know they were saying something about lake effect snow pretty much all day today into tomorrow. It really hasn’t stopped snowing here so I’m not surprised.

More snow is supposed to happen tomorrow night into Tuesday AM, but it sounds like she should be gone long before it arrives.
Sounds like we are neighbors. Plow trucks were stopped about 8 last night in Fulton County. Country roads are still pretty bad but the highways should be OK. 31 toward indy is usually well traveled and maintained.
 
I live in the Terre Haute area and drive a plow truck for work. Roads were pretty bad until around midnight last night. I heard there was a big pile up somewhere on 70 and other than that I only saw one vehicle in the ditch last night and I really wonder how they got there because the road they were driving on was totally clear.
Gosh, INDOT is looking more and more like IDIOT with how they’ve got those lanes and barriers around exit 4 or whatever it is that gets off on 41. What a cluster…
 
Oh well. I’m just glad everyone was OK. Ill
Assess the damage and figure out whether to take it to a body shop on that woman’s insurance. Luckily she was insured, I guess.
is there a police report?

I'd venture to say that 90% of vehicles on the road in Indiana (Ohio, Illinois, etc) drive year-round on all-season tires and we get snow, ice, freezing rain, etc every winter. If you can, sure, avoid driving, but sometimes you have to. I personally don't know anyone that puts full-blown winter tires on their cars.
I hear that but my whole childhood(In NE OHIO) was getting stuck everywhere in old cars on bad tires.

considerably later... I worked in the lake effect snow belt for 5+ years.

Now I run winters on both vehicles.. although with the last few winters A set of CC2's would have likely sufficed I like the best ice traction.
There were a few times I got to work and fell on my rear in the parking lot because I didn't even know it was slippery.. at 4am.
 
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is there a police report?


I hear that but my whole childhood(In NE OHIO) was getting stuck everywhere in old cars on bad tires.

considerably later... I worked in the lake effect snow belt for 5+ years.

Now I run winters on both vehicles.. although with the last few winters A set of CC2's would have likely sufficed I like the best ice traction.
There were a few times I got to work and fell on my rear in the parking lot because I didn't even know it was slippery.. at 4am.
No police report.
 
Dedicated winter rubber is always a better performing option, but frankly it's often just not justifiable in terms of cost/benfit.

In south central Indiana, the snows that fall are infrequent enough and mild enough that a quality all weather or AS tire can work quite sufficiently for an AWD or even FWD vehicle. We get the occasional 6"-8" at once, but it's more like an every-3rd-year kind of occurrence.
Even when we get a lot of snow dumped on us, 8 hours later or certainly by the next day, the roads are 100% cleared of any snow.
I hear that but my whole childhood(In NE OHIO) was getting stuck everywhere in old cars on bad tires.
Yeap and growing up, my Dad had snow tires for our cars.
 
@john_pifer and @Skippy722 - what tires were on those vehicles? How much tread?

Not saying either of you or your families. My wife's cousin didn't want to drive their SUV to visit their son. They rented an X5 BUT it had summer tires on it. They slid of the road 2x, luckily no damage. 1st was just cold rain, 2nd was very light dusting/blowing. Their comments, "never by a BMW, they suck in the winter" :unsure: :( :oops:. I try and have conversations with them but it's futile and not really worth the effort. The whole family tends to have poor driving habits and accidents especially in bad weather and can't understand why. They have lived in NY all their lives.

The rentals I have had, unless basically new didn't have greatest tires and definitely not winter or even all weather. I'd rather take one of my higher mileage vehicles properly equipped than a rental knowing possible conditions. I know how mine are maintained.
 
@john_pifer and @Skippy722 - what tires were on those vehicles? How much tread?

Not saying either of you or your families. My wife's cousin didn't want to drive their SUV to visit their son. They rented an X5 BUT it had summer tires on it. They slid of the road 2x, luckily no damage. 1st was just cold rain, 2nd was very light dusting/blowing. Their comments, "never by a BMW, they suck in the winter" :unsure: :( :oops:. I try and have conversations with them but it's futile and not really worth the effort. The whole family tends to have poor driving habits and accidents especially in bad weather and can't understand why. They have lived in NY all their lives.

The rentals I have had, unless basically new didn't have greatest tires and definitely not winter or even all weather. I'd rather take one of my higher mileage vehicles properly equipped than a rental knowing possible conditions. I know how mine are maintained.
3PMSF rated Yokohama Geolandar G015's with about 3/4 tread remaining.

I'm very glad to hear your wife is okay.

The truck is just a truck, and can be repaired or replaced.
She was worried I was going to be mad, because while I do love that truck it's just a pile of metal and plastic at the end of the day and easily replaceable.... There is only one Mrs. Skippy and she is irreplaceable.
 
It's always interesting to me to see how various counties deal with snowfall.

Attached is a photo image of the IN DOT report of county travel status as of yesterday morning (11-30-25).
The legend is grey = no restriction, yellow is travel adversary, orange is travel warning, and red is travel ban.

Note that only 1 county in the entire state is red (Benton County IN). I was in the neighboring county of Tippecanoe; it was grey (no travel restrictions).

Now, Benton Co does get a lot of wind; it's just due to weather patterns and topography. There is a massive wind farm in that county that extends over into IL. It's a farming community with low population and low tax base. Hence, not a lot of money for plowing roads. Plus a lot of farmers have their own 4x4s and tractors with plows ... so they are somewhat self-supportive.

My family needed to travel through Benton Co. I called the Benton County Highway Department in the morning to inquire about the roads and was told "stay off the roads". I asked why they were "red" (travel ban) and yet the next county over was "grey" (no restriction whatsoever). I was told that the Benton Co HwyDept does not plow at night. So all the snow accumulation which happened over the previous 12 hours had drifted over and the roads were "impassable".

And yet, the IN DOT was able to clear (and keep clear) the highways and state roads which runs right through Benton Co, and all those other counties further north. And when I asked about those roads, I was told "The state has more resources and works around the clock. We don't."

My point is that there is a lot of variability in road conditions depending on where you're traveling and who's clearing them. But if you only looked at the image of travel restrictions, you'd assume that no one was allowed to travel at all in Benton Co.

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