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I bought R&P 5w30 to try on my 2013 Hyundai Santa Fe 2.0Ts, which both dilute per the UOAs so I think it'll be an interesting test. However, the dilution could just be the engine design...we shall see.
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Define significant.
If you mean significantly different performance, there’s usually at least one HPL thread per week where people have gone significantly further than the shelf oils with UOAs that show the oil has performed well. Usually 2-3x longer than they’ve ever gone before; there’s more than a few that have gone over 30k miles. That’s pretty significant in my book.
I haven’t seen anything significant on the R&P front other than the amount of threads it has generated, without showing anything extraordinary.
I’m using the R&P as a poor mans HPL if you will.
With me doing 5K ish mile oil changes, I can’t justify the higher cost of HPL. Im hoping this is a cheaper way to get results along the lines of like HPL, but probably not anywhere near what hpl oil can do
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Overhyped to me.
Having had a 2017 Sonata bought at 25k miles, that car is very likely not burning oil... Yet. Mine didn't start until around 55k. It's fine to use VRP this early, I would do the same, but temper your expectations.
Is this an “oil is oil” post?
It's a there is no magical oil made from unicorn tears post.Is this an “oil is oil” post?
My 07 had 386000 on the 2.4 when I traded it in... No oli additive ever .. Just used Mobil 1 and a Fram 7317 oil filter....changed oil and filter about every 7000 miles....
Think people are blowing this way out of proportion. Give it a chance to see If it does do what it claims Is t just came out
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I have it in our 2018 Audi Q7 with the 3.0t in it that had consumed a Qt of oil in just 400 miles after we bought it with 84K miles on it.
I did a Berryman's B12 piston soak, a BG EPR flush and changed to the 5W-30 Restore & Protect 1300 miles ago. It hasn't used any oil since that point, I believe the piston soak did the most to free up the oil control rings, but these low tension ring engines are going to need something like VR&P to keep the rings free and pistons clean & free of carbon in the ring land of the oil control rings.
Looking at the filter media after the soak and the BG EPR flush shows lots of carbon captured in the filter media. I'm going to pull the filter at 1500 miles on this oil and see if there is any more carbon in it. Typically I'd be using Mobile1 0W-40 in our Euro vehicles. Dont like using a 5W-30 thats not Euro rated, but what are you going to do to clean up the pistons otherwise. I'm told the 2018 Q7 is fine and actually recommends using 5W-30 in it anyway, so I figure it should be fine if keeping the interval down to 5K miles or below. I'll do an oil analysis on the next change to VR&P, this fist batch I'll dump at 3K miles.
I'm hoping they come with a Euro spec in 0-40 or 5-40 weight soon in the VR&P.
I did a Berryman's B12 piston soak, a BG EPR flush and changed to the 5W-30 Restore & Protect 1300 miles ago. It hasn't used any oil since that point, I believe the piston soak did the most to free up the oil control rings, but these low tension ring engines are going to need something like VR&P to keep the rings free and pistons clean & free of carbon in the ring land of the oil control rings.
Looking at the filter media after the soak and the BG EPR flush shows lots of carbon captured in the filter media. I'm going to pull the filter at 1500 miles on this oil and see if there is any more carbon in it. Typically I'd be using Mobile1 0W-40 in our Euro vehicles. Dont like using a 5W-30 thats not Euro rated, but what are you going to do to clean up the pistons otherwise. I'm told the 2018 Q7 is fine and actually recommends using 5W-30 in it anyway, so I figure it should be fine if keeping the interval down to 5K miles or below. I'll do an oil analysis on the next change to VR&P, this fist batch I'll dump at 3K miles.
I'm hoping they come with a Euro spec in 0-40 or 5-40 weight soon in the VR&P.
Significant cleaning, apologies for the vagueness. With this being probably the most trafficked oil website you would think there would be plenty of hobbyists who would like to show and tell the insides of their engines after using either. I've looked around on here but forum search engines being what they are not much has shown up as far as pictures.
HPL has several Euro 0&5w40 offerings that would do the trick
That's very similar to the process I want to do on my 2019 Kia Sportage with 108k, bought used with 98k.
Burns a quart between 500-1000 miles, I changed the oil about 3k miles ago, doing a flush with BGEPR and cleaning the intake with CRC. That's when I switched to the VRP.
It still burns the same amount so my plan was to do the piston soak, and use another round of BG EPR with the 44k fuel system cleaner, another shot of CRC and hope for the best.
You are mixing 2 different technologies together with unknown results or how will they play together.