- Jun 24, 2004
- Top of Virginia
I don't ask this in a classical "which is better" kind of way. That's been done to death for decades. But, rather, being relatively inexperienced at shotgunning, I wanted to hear from those more seasoned at it how significant the mechanical differences really are. Safety: Moss (tang) vs. Rem (crossbolt). I think this is personal preference, and of no real consequence. I'm a RH shooter and can use either one just as effectively. Slide release: Moss (behind the trigger guard) vs. Rem (forward of the trigger guard). I'm very used to the slide release on the Mossberg, behind the trigger guard. I can reach it with my middle finger and not have to adjust my grip. The Remington requires me to adjust my grip to get to the slide release. But is that significant? In the real world, either clay shooting or in a home defense situation, is one really going to have to manually release the slide for any reason? It's much easier for me to get to the Mossberg's slide release, but if there's no real-world use for it other than to unload the gun at the end of the day, then it probably doesn't matter either way. Extractor: Moss (two) vs. Rem (one). Aside from the older steel extractor on the Rem vs. what is apparently now a MIM part, is there any real-world benefit to having two extractors? I suppose there's no end to the number of extractors you could put on a bolt in theory...does anyone with an 870 wish they had two extractors instead of one? Ejector: Moss (screw in) vs. Rem (welded on). The Mossberg's design is user serviceable -- if one has to replace an ejector, one can do so at home on the work bench or even in the field. I guess the Remington requires the welds to be drilled out or something...the ejector basically has to be replaced by a gunsmith or the Remington factory. Again...does that really matter? Has anyone with an 870 had to have their ejector replaced? Part of the reason I ask is because I'm looking at used guns as well as new, and I wouldn't know how to spot an ejector problem (if they ever occur) without shooting it. I do like how the Mossbergs have a drilled-and-tapped receiver for a rail, if one ever wanted to use one. I don't care about steel vs. aluminum on the receiver -- I think both guns lock the bolt to the steel barrel, anyway. I highly prefer the Remington's extendable magazine tube, whether you buy it from the factory that way or do it yourself to an existing gun. The Mossberg's magazine screw design allows for no magazine extension. It seems like my preferred gun doesn't exist. On paper, I like everything about the Mossberg except for the fact that you can't extend the magazine. And I'm looking at 20 ga models, so the 590, with its extended magazine tube, is the wrong gauge for me. Maybe I'm too stuck on that? The 500 that I'm selling is a 7+1 model, and I really don't want to lose 2 rounds and gown down to a 5+1 or even less. Both Mossberg and Remington have nice Bantam/youth models that I like. I know I can always lengthen the tube on the Remington. With the Mossberg, the only way to get a 7 round magazine is with an 18.5/20" cylinder bore barrel, and maybe I want a slightly longer vent rib with better sight options to add to the versatility of the gun... Decisions, decisions... Any input on the mechanical differences above is certainly appreciated.