Not to mention cleaner oil control rings at any oci!
I admit that I didn’t watch. Those videos trigger spontaneous Tourette’s alternating with maniacal laughter. It’s quite concerning for unsuspecting bystanders around me. My support group recommends I stay away from those things that trigger those behaviors.it’s like buddy didn’t even watch the video in question.
In the big picture, you’re trading a slight increase in upfront costs for longer and fewer service intervals, without sacrificing protection, and also generating significantly less waste oil and filters.
Now that’s an intelligent response to have me say that interesting and I learned something new. Very professional response. Not some juvenile sophomoric response. Thanks
I had no idea he was that old. We need him to release a video on his skincare routine next!
It did not fail due to the Amsoil unless I’m missing something?
No it didn’t
Annual oil changes with Amsoil. And it sludged and had cam wear. Am I misremembering what happened?
That’s what was told. Even the OP stated he didn’t intend to indicate it was related to the Amsoil. Apparently, those VCM enabled engines are notoriously hard on the oil. Incorrect maintenance coupled with a trouble prone engine, is a bad combination. Amsoil just catching strays with that example, not the true source of the problem; even if the description was true.
That's an engine that likes to sludge itself up and burn huge amounts of oil (as discussed in the thread), it is an application that is incredibly hard on oil and it should never have been running 1-year/15,000 mile intervals. Trav was able to keep them clean doing short intervals on a Euro LL oil like M1 FS 0W-40, which is an oil capable of, and approved for, extended drains in a plethora of applications.
Yeah, the OCI just pushed the Amsoil too far. I doubt any oil would’ve been up to that task given what we know about the context of the application in question. Trav first hand goes up two grades and still cuts the intervals way down. Just simply not a viable candidate for extended drains.That's an engine that likes to sludge itself up and burn huge amounts of oil (as discussed in the thread), it is an application that is incredibly hard on oil and it should never have been running 1-year/15,000 mile intervals. Trav was able to keep them clean doing short intervals on a Euro LL oil like M1 FS 0W-40, which is an oil capable of, and approved for, extended drains in a plethora of applications.
On one hand, I don't think it's unreasonable to point out that the oil didn't hold up for that interval length, given what it's advertised to do, but on the other, there's a history of that engine destroying oils on FAR shorter intervals, and ending up even uglier, so
It’s all in the thread. Nothing well documented anyway
Just kind of interesting that "there are no Amsoil failures," and when one is pointed out, when someone changes it according to Amsoil's recommendations (annual or every 25,000 miles), well, that one doesn't count, etc etc. J series engine is a good engine.
VCM really was not good.
Exactly. Not all engines are capable of extended drains. There was a mechanical / design related problem with the engine and the owner extended the interval blindly; yet Amsoil is supposed to take the fall for it? Is Amsoil supposed to come out and tell someone if they have an engine with design problems then don’t extend the interval? That’s the owner’s negligence for blindly extending the interval. The example isn’t severe service, it’s an outlier of extreme use. It’s akin to regular tracking of the oil and then still using it for extended OCIs. In other words, off label / outside the scope of Amsoil’s recommendations.
Yeah to be clear, I'm not saying that a different oil would have done better. So it seems like it's an oil related failure to me, and Amsoil was in the sump.
I'm not sure it's negligence. He followed Amsoil's recommendations. And it failed.
I think any oil with a mileage promise, be it Castrol Edge with their 25K, Mobil 1 EP...etc would have all crapped the bed in a similar fashion in this application. This is the risk with just running extended drain intervals without detailed knowledge as to the suitability of your application or performing oil analysis.
