Quick lube disaster-any ideas

[Kira]

^^This came in while I was typing.
Assuming one of the suggestions to "smooth over" the gouges works, fit an adaptor plate (with sealant) which is part of a remote filter relocator.
Then you'd never disturb the damaged boss again.

I'm with Slick3914 re a competent mechanic going to any quick lube.
All car tinkering life I've heard the most 'self-sufficient, rough-tough' guys whimper, "What am I going to do with the old oil?"

 

[NibbanaBanana]

Agree with others to try the easy way first. JB weld, sand smooth and then use RTV on the whole surface. Let dry. Return to service.
Or even just use RTV gasket maker, let it cure good and try it.
Can't imaging what happened there. If an old filter was on so long the gasket had to be chiseled off then the thing will probably die before you have to do another oil change.

 

[21_6.7f450]

CAPTAIN or Chris have the right idea. Either should work.
Unless I'm missing something, he did not say it was his car. It could be his sister's, co-worker's, or neighbor's car.

 

[spasm3]

fill the gouges with jbweld. scrape off the excess with a rasor before it hardens then let it harden.

This is what i would do. I would first get that surface completely clean, then use brake cleaner to get all the oil off the surface, JB-weld. Might need an inner ring of painters tape or a cut aluminum can as a form to help fill the gap at the 4:00 position.Trim while soft as Chris said. Let it cure 24 hours. Use a 20k mile filter, change every other oil change. Hope for the best.

 

[Cujet]

How about a remote oil filter kit, with RTV smeared onto the surface before the adapter gets screwed on?

I like the idea of a remote filter setup that could be configured to seal properly by choosing one with a wide gasket, and tightening beyond belief. RTV is not up for that task and will fail. JB weld is a valid suggestion for anything that can't break free into the oil system. So under and outside of the seal.

 

[c502cid]

CAPTAIN or Chris have the right idea. Either should work.
Unless I'm missing something, he did not say it was his car. It could be his sister's, co-worker's, or neighbor's car.

I also kind of wondering how the quick lube gets the blame here too.

 

[zrxkawboy]

I would use the epoxy.

 

[bigblockbuick]

I’m struggling to understand… you can change an AC compressor but a quick lube changed the oil?

Sorry for the confusion, this is a customers vehicle they brought to me for ac compressor.

 

[ARCOgraphite]

Remove nipple, jB weld or similar filled epoxy, Block "sand"
Dykem then light "sand: for flatness check.
Repeat if required.
Mount filter and add oil. immediately check for leaks cold - then hot at 4000 rpm. Drive it.

 

[bigblockbuick]

I also kind of wondering how the quick lube gets the blame here too.

This is a customers vehicle that I have serviced on a regular basis for the last 8 years. The customer also uses a national chain quick lube place for just oil changes. Definitely wasnt me that gouged up the block.

 

[DuckRyder]

Based on the shiny part, i think your main issue is the big chip or gouge @ About 4 o'clock. The big chunk at 3 o'clock is iffy. I think jb weld is going to be your only real option with it in the car, if there's enough room maybe could TIG it and then machine flat with some version of your valve grinder idea.

I find filters with a P gasket tend to seal better on my past Hondas.

Also check the gasket diameter on the old short fat filter, it look like there is room for it, it could have enough larger gasket to hit outside the damage.

 

[bigblockbuick]

Based on the shiny part, i think your main issue is the big chip or gouge @ About 4 o'clock. The big chunk at 3 o'clock is iffy. I think jb weld is going to be your only real option with it in the car, if there's enough room maybe could TIG it and then machine flat with some version of your valve grinder idea.

I find filters with a P gasket tend to seal better on my past Hondas.

Also check the gasket diameter on the old short fat filter, it look like there is room for it, it could have enough larger gasket to hit outside the damage.

The only filter I stock is the honda oem filter that has the oring looking seal. Is the what your call a P gasket?

 

[spasm3]

I wonder if you could fill that chunk/gap with a low temp aluminum brazing rod?

 

[DuckRyder]

The only filter I stock is the honda oem filter that has the oring looking seal. Is the what your call a P gasket?

Yes.

 

[c502cid]

This is a customers vehicle that I have serviced on a regular basis for the last 8 years. The customer also uses a national chain quick lube place for just oil changes. Definitely wasnt me that gouged up the block.

I didn't think you did it, I was just missing the quick lube connection.

 

[Chris142]

The only filter I stock is the honda oem filter that has the oring looking seal. Is the what your call a P gasket?

Try a fram or whatever uses the square cut seal. crank it down pretty tight may seal it

 

[eljefino]

Have a machine shop make a plate, maybe .050 thick, out of steel, with an inner and outer diameter to match your gouged surface. Gouge your surface up MORE, so epoxy will stick, then glue the plate to the existing surface. I've done this on ball valves that hold back a heck of a lot more pressure.

 

[Leo99]

This is a customers vehicle that I have serviced on a regular basis for the last 8 years. The customer also uses a national chain quick lube place for just oil changes. Definitely wasnt me that gouged up the block.

Ah, this makes sense now. You tried to do a good deed for your customer and now you have an issue on your hands. Have you informed your customer regarding this? This is a sticky situation.

 

[TomYoung]

Was this assembly leaking before you discovered the damage? It doesn’t look like it. I would suggest telling the customer, saying the only real solution is a new block (?) and manage moving forward by careful installation of new oil filter and gasket. JB Weld or RTV are liable to make the situation worse if they break off, or add more irregularity to the sealing surface. Whoever dis this was a right piece of work.

 

[bigblockbuick]

Ah, this makes sense now. You tried to do a good deed for your customer and now you have an issue on your hands. Have you informed your customer regarding this? This is a sticky situation.

Yes absolutely, the customer has been informed. He has left the attempted repair up to me and understands that it may not be permanent