Quick! Help! Is this worth cleaning now?

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Well I got it finished and the truck runs like new again.

I appreciate the help, all.

I'll post a link to the procedure write-up I'm going to do. A BUNCH of F150 owners have persistent P0141/P0147 codes and only a few people have tried replacing the intake plenum port gaskets and isolator bolts themselves.

I only hope that 7 hours and much back pain was worth it.
 
Originally Posted By: c3po
What caused that too happen, was it oil mist getting past the PCV Valve or is that a faulty EGR Valve causing that buildup.


I would guess 78K miles of combined city/highway, stop-go traffic, and lots of idling early in the truck's life. I just recently changed the PCV valve at 70K even though the original worked fine. OCI has been every 5k with Motorcraft 5W-20 and FL400S filter. No oil consumption at all (which is very surprising now).

The gunk on the IMRC valves was almost like glue. A few brisk shots of carb cleaner melted it away.

I can't say much about the EGR, but the OBDII hasn't thrown an EGR code, so I'm going to assume it is working as it should. Ford did have a bad batch of DPFE sensors on many vehicles (moisture would collect inside the sensor and corrode it). I think I changed that one at maybe 25-30K miles to the new design.

I'm curious if oil in the intake is a Ford thing. The older Windstar with the 3.8L V6 came designed with a faulty valve cover that allows the PCV to drink oil into the manifold.
 
Originally Posted By: c3po
Originally Posted By: onion
Personally, I wouldn't bother. A thin film like that won't cause you any problems. And it's negligible compared to the crusty critters that are likely built up on the back side of your valves.

Originally Posted By: c3po
What caused that too happen, was it oil mist getting past the PCV Valve or is that a faulty EGR Valve causing that buildup.


This is quite common on even well-maintained engines. The crud likely comes from both sources, and the EGR valve doesn't have to be faulty to cause this.


This happened on a Ford engine, and I have a Mercury Marauder which is a Ford product, how do I prevent this from happening.

The owner's manual says to change the PCV at 100,000 miles. I think I will be changing it at 30,000 miles.


Brent- When they did away with throttle body injection and carbs, the blow-by gas no longer had a solvent fuel wash down throughout the entire intake system. If you've pulled a carb off of an intake, you would (probably) see a bit of a stain where the PCV port hit the intake ..and then a lighter stain trailing off into nothing. This can no longer occur in a "self maintaining" manner. Now the blow-by vapors hit the pulsing environment (much larger) of the intake and the heavier particles sink out. They migrate to the point of injection where they get dissolved ..just like they used to when the air:fuel mixture washed them down before.

The EGR process adds to this too, but not as much as the PCV system.

You cannot avoid this unless you can clean the blow-by evacuation process before it hits the intake. That's why onion says that it's normal.

I would have a hard time leaving it there once I had access to it.
 
It looks normal to me. Amsoil Power Foam (APFSC), I'd be willing to bet that would work, although I never tried it. Problem is it will be back again, its normal and cosmetic at this point and not hurting anything.
 
Originally Posted By: mechtech2
You will cause problems if you clean it on the car.
Suck it up and take it off.


Well that tone seems awfully unnecessary.

Besides, removing the intake manifold requires draining the cooling system and an additional set of gaskets and RTV work.

No thanks.
 
Originally Posted By: Reddy45
Originally Posted By: mechtech2
You will cause problems if you clean it on the car.
Suck it up and take it off.


Well that tone seems awfully unnecessary.


If that tone bothers you, then you obviously don't spend much time on the intranets.

I have a professional disagreement with mechtech here. I don't think this here crud is worth the trouble. And he's probably a Communist.

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Besides, removing the intake manifold requires draining the cooling system and an additional set of gaskets and RTV work.

No thanks.


My thoughts exactly. I MIGHT spray some carb cleaner in there... but probably not... not the nicest thing to do to your oxygen sensors or your oil.
 
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