2015 GM 3500 6.0L - Need help with engine stumble

So recently I have still been messing with this issue. Got the AllData DIY thing online to get some more specific specs on the fuel system. In a flow chart, I found that anything above 60psi = no good. I have 65psi running, constant.

Call up the dealer for some parts availability, and got a price for a factory fuel pump for it, and they said they would not give me the part number. .........Figures.

ordered new pump from dealer
Hmm, is that extra 5 psi really detrimental? I guess you're gonna find out ...
 
Hmm, is that extra 5 psi really detrimental? I guess you're gonna find out ...
Not sure, 5 psi is roughly 8% more flow at a given injection duty cycle. Really the spec is 50 -55. If not, then ill have another fuel pump to toy with HAHAHA
 
Does it have a Fuel Pump Control Module? Is it Flex Fuel?
No on the flex fuel, it is gas. My scanner does not recognize it having a module. When I command "ON" the guage goes to 65 psi maybe 66, then back to 60. While running 65 or 66 constant.

What are your thoughts?
 
If no module, Then it has a Pressure Regulator in the fuel pump housing/module. Replace the fuel pump. Wonder if it's aftermarket?
No it is original. I have had the truck since new, and it has not been replaced. I just went out, and verified that it does not have an FICM, as it lists it as "not equipped". It does have two tanks, one small 20 gallon and one big 40 gallon, so I am sure there is a module of some kind that balances the tank. But to my knowledge, there is no fuel module.
 
If no module, Then it has a Pressure Regulator in the fuel pump housing/module. Replace the fuel pump. Wonder if it's aftermarket?
FPR. intank intergrated with pump i think. The jerk at the dealership would not give me a part number to refence so I could look it up and see what was on it, but, the FPR is supposed to regulate to 60 max, and when I turn the key on if goes to 65 or 66, then down to 60. After I start it, it jumps back up to 65 nad there is not change in pressure when i snap the throttle.

I did under your advisement, clean the injectors, and it did smooth out the idle, but trims were still in the -15-18 range. Got new vin matched injectors, and runs smooth, mostly, but trims are still negative. Replaced EVAP solenoid, with gm part, and seemed to have a slight effect on trims, but them went back to -15 or so.
 
2500/3500's have higher emissions thresholds.

58 PSI is the spec for Non FPCM models....Not that I've seen FPCM equipped LS/LT trucks vary much from 58 PSI.
so you would agree that 65 is high? Pretty weird IMO
 
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So 58 max. Did not think of using the HPT.

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So what reads FRP? I mean, are we confident in the data or is there a faulty sensor? I'm assuming there's no Schraeder valve here?
 
So what reads FRP? I mean, are we confident in the data or is there a faulty sensor? I'm assuming there's no Schraeder valve here?
I read from mechanical gauge, read at injector rail. 65psi, schrader valve

There is no sensor at the fuel rail or any other active sensor that directly reads fuel pressure as far as i know.
 
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So what reads FRP? I mean, are we confident in the data or is there a faulty sensor? I'm assuming there's no Schraeder valve here?
to my knowledge,there is no fuel pressure sensor which adds to the issue 8mo
 
just backyard mechanic diagnose would be a fuel issue. start with the pump and move to the injectors. I think you're on the right track. when a vehicle sits after it been running everything heats soaks, so that when you have most of your problems.
 
Replace the fuel pump
So they got it today at one of the local dealers, and yep, they ordered me the wrong one. I told them I needed the front tank pump, and with a small bit of questioning, figured out they had me the rear tank.

I wish they just used a simple transfer pump that could not be misconstrued with the front pump, which brings fuel to the rail.....or better yet, just have a transfer pipe between them.

that one is going to be a bear to do. I am going to remove some exhaust to get easier access. CM out of Denton TX did the bed, so access is maybe different from pickup.
 
I pulled the tank on a 2017 2500 Duramax not to long ago & was pretty easy, The exhaust is on the passenger side on both diesel & gas trucks.

Remove the 3 screws on the filler neck mount, Remove plastic shield if equipped, Disconnect the lines, Remove the straps....Shift the tank away from the frame rail & disconnect the filler hose, Lower the tank 'til you can unplug the electrical connector.
 
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