Bicycle frames are supposed to be lightweight,
you want as few welds as possible, which should be imperceptible.
Purolator has been bought out!!!
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you want as few welds as possible, which should be imperceptible.
Agreed. If the tubes are machined correctly, a minimum of weld is needed to secure the joint. High end bikes, the frame will look smooth, as if no weld took place. Entry level bikes are heavy, and have a lot of weld material to join poorly made tubes.
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Originally posted by Papa Bear:
That Chinese filter should fit the Chinese engines well.
P.B.
Why does 'GM' keep coming into my mind??!!
Hmmm! The little Plastic toys that my son gets out of the 25cent gum ball machines are made in china too.
I best go check the back of all the *WIX} boxes i have in my garage.
Who's Next? MotorCraft? M1? FleetGuard?
Oh how I like seeing Made in the UsA.
I best go check the back of all the *WIX} boxes i have in my garage.
Who's Next? MotorCraft? M1? FleetGuard?
Oh how I like seeing Made in the UsA.
It's what you can't see inside that concerns me. The temptation to "economize" is too great, especially if it can't be noticed easily. Though the quality of products coming out of China seems to be improving I don't know whether I'd trust my engine to them or a country other than a 1st world country. With Fram oil filters being the exception to the 1st world country products
Whimsey
You wouldn't trust your engine to them? Man, your engine is nothing compared to what China is capable of doing these days. You guys are crazy if you think China is incapable of building top quality OIL FILTERS!!! China has averaged almost 10% GDP growth per year since the mid 70's and now has the 3rd largest amount of foreign trade in dollars. A good portion of non-renewable resource demand such as for steel and oil are from China. Telecommunications, manufacturing, and financial sectors are exploding. They are soon to be a world super-power, and the real quality problems should be looked for in the good old USA - where health costs, foreign competition, litigation, and unions constantly drive up fixed costs, making owners and managers seek ways to cut costs in other places - namely materials and production.
A lot of you drive Hynundais and Kias - ten years ago they were absolutely the worst cars built. These days they are above domestic and some European standards. If little Korea can build cars you want and enjoy, why can't China build an oil filter?
Time to lose the American-centric state of mind.
Andy
Darn it. I might have to go with Baldwin's B2-HPG from now on. Expensive filter too!
After MANY years of Purolator/Motorcraft loyalty, I have moved on after hearing this news. I now run Carquest Blue filters, which are made in the USA on top of being a high quality filter. Bye bye Purolator.
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This could kill the threaded-end bypass I like on Motorcrafts. I think Bosch uses the more unpopular clicker valve bypasses.
Purolator, who uses dome end bypasses on filters under their own name, has built Motorcraft filters with thread end bypasses to Ford's specs for years. If Bosch wants to keep Ford's business, they will continue the thread end bypass. Bosch could choose to manufacture Bosch filters with Motorcraft like thread end bypasses instead of buying Champ made clickers.
Other than their dome end bypasses, Purolator is a decent filter. This could be an upgrade. or we could be stuck with paying a premium for German mistique.
They were made in China before the buy-out. You just never paid attention before.
Why would a new owner WANT to change the quality of the newly purchased company? Just so you guys can have something to yak about? I seriously think not. If anything the overall product quality improves, from customer service to product, after a merge. And the drastic changes are at the management levels, and you never notice it at the consumer level.
Purolator has been sold so many times, I think the corporate owners on the HQ building is held on with velcro. And still, they've produced a quality product through all the changes.
Just like when Dana sold Wix, all you did was raise all the negative things you thought would happen and none of the positives that have happened.
It's time to stop and think about things before you start the witch hunts.
[ June 26, 2006, 07:37 AM: Message edited by: Pete C. ]
Why would a new owner WANT to change the quality of the newly purchased company? Just so you guys can have something to yak about? I seriously think not. If anything the overall product quality improves, from customer service to product, after a merge. And the drastic changes are at the management levels, and you never notice it at the consumer level.
Purolator has been sold so many times, I think the corporate owners on the HQ building is held on with velcro. And still, they've produced a quality product through all the changes.
Just like when Dana sold Wix, all you did was raise all the negative things you thought would happen and none of the positives that have happened.
It's time to stop and think about things before you start the witch hunts.
[ June 26, 2006, 07:37 AM: Message edited by: Pete C. ]
Where'd you get that from? The various Purolators I used up until a couple of months ago had made in the USA printed on them.
That's your opinion and you are entitled to keep it.
Purolator's manufacturing facility is in Fayettville North Carolina. Arvin Meritor has plants worldwide though.
Not according to their website and corporate relations. So you're saying that even though the box clearly states made in the USA, it's not? Perhaps products sold in those countries and other parts of the world aren't manufactured in the US.
Where was the filter made, not the box.
Do you really think they could outsource a filter to China in the time it took for you to learn about the Purolator sale?
It takes years to start up a business in ANY part of the world, even a joint venture with an existing manufacturer takes many months.
Even to purchase product from an existing manufacturer takes negotiationg time, manufacturing scheduling, the actual manufacturing, shipping and distribution.
No, your filter was in the pipeline to a USA warehouse long before you even heard of the sale to Bosch.
Do you really think they could outsource a filter to China in the time it took for you to learn about the Purolator sale?
It takes years to start up a business in ANY part of the world, even a joint venture with an existing manufacturer takes many months.
Even to purchase product from an existing manufacturer takes negotiationg time, manufacturing scheduling, the actual manufacturing, shipping and distribution.
No, your filter was in the pipeline to a USA warehouse long before you even heard of the sale to Bosch.
Very good points all the way, Pete.
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