Pureone 22500 cut open

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Originally Posted By: jk_636
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: jk_636
Originally Posted By: SilverC6
Good looking Pure One.

Thanks for posting.



This is definetely one the Puro-haters dont want to see
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What people are labeling as "Puro-haters" are actually long time Purolator fans and users (me included - just look at past postings since I joined in 2010) that are now disappointing in the failure issue, and also disappointed in how Purolator has responded to the issue. They want to use Purolators, but are moving on to something that doesn't have a high chance of failing. A natural response IMO.


Purolators are still good filters, there is just some hysteria sweeping the site because of some failures. My filter was made in March of this year and no tears. Not even any pleats that were close to tearing. Perhaps there was a problem and they solved it, or the problem was not as wide spread as some would have us believe?


You have got to be kidding! What the Puro tear lovers call hysteria reasonable people call documenting an obvious quality issue. People continue to deny there was an issue but the greater than 40 tears documented on this site show a consistent failure. If they fix this long standing issue (which goes back at least 5 years) great. But likely many have moved on to better filters.
I suggest to you pull your head out of the sand.
 
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
^^^ Its' possible the newer made Purolators will not show any signs of reported tears. If newer made filters like this one don't show failures, then maybe Purolator has listened to the members here. I found a tear just like all these reported ones in the last 4 months back in May 2011 and let Purolator know at the time. So time will tell if they've really fixed this now or not.

IMO, the tearing issue was wide spread. How could it be that only BITOG members who decided to cut open filter were the only ones it was happening to? Astronomical odds of that happening, so you can bet it was happening everywhere ... not just here.


None of it was verified independently, just claims. Who is to say the filter media is not tampered with after and or during cutting phase?
 
Originally Posted By: kozanoglu
Yes, the fad is Fram Ultra now, who knows what the new fad will be next. Currently there is an anti purolator hysteria. Man-made.

That's pure hog wash. The Ultra is a great filter and the tearolators have shown consistent quality issues. Where is the hysteria?
 
Originally Posted By: kozanoglu
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
^^^ Its' possible the newer made Purolators will not show any signs of reported tears. If newer made filters like this one don't show failures, then maybe Purolator has listened to the members here. I found a tear just like all these reported ones in the last 4 months back in May 2011 and let Purolator know at the time. So time will tell if they've really fixed this now or not.

IMO, the tearing issue was wide spread. How could it be that only BITOG members who decided to cut open filter were the only ones it was happening to? Astronomical odds of that happening, so you can bet it was happening everywhere ... not just here.


None of it was verified independently, just claims. Who is to say the filter media is not tampered with after and or during cutting phase?


Care to back up that post or continue to post hog wash? Saying respected members of this site is tampering with filters when cutting is insulting. Go away troll.
 
Originally Posted By: Nate1979
Originally Posted By: kozanoglu
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
^^^ Its' possible the newer made Purolators will not show any signs of reported tears. If newer made filters like this one don't show failures, then maybe Purolator has listened to the members here. I found a tear just like all these reported ones in the last 4 months back in May 2011 and let Purolator know at the time. So time will tell if they've really fixed this now or not.

IMO, the tearing issue was wide spread. How could it be that only BITOG members who decided to cut open filter were the only ones it was happening to? Astronomical odds of that happening, so you can bet it was happening everywhere ... not just here.


None of it was verified independently, just claims. Who is to say the filter media is not tampered with after and or during cutting phase?


Care to back up that post or continue to post hog wash? Saying respected members of this site is tampering with filters when cutting is insulting. Go away troll.





Agreed.
Basically the new guy(re-incarnate) has seen fit to basically call those folks who posted pics of torn media liars and they did it themselves.
Truly absurd.
Personally I've got no preference when it comes to filters and I buy what's cost effective. It's just that simple.
That being said the 2 Bosch distance plus filters I used and cut open were fine,no obvious tearing,at a minimum 15000 mile interval,and the 2 pure ones I used had no obvious defects at 15000+ miles of use.
So personally I've got no problems with the product other than the problems I saw here,posted by adults who if they have an anti-puro agenda truly need to get a life.
I use motomaster because of cost,and at the time of dissection,at a minimum 10000 mile interval I see no obvious defects.
So for me it's cost. I'm not going to spend 10 dollars on a filter when I can spend 4 and achieve the exact same performance and same mileages.
So as far as I'm concerned the puro tears are real,posted by caring members who chose to share a potential problem with the members of this board.
If puro can make a filter that costs the same as my rebadged tough guards for the same price then I'd use them,but they don't.
 
Originally Posted By: jk_636
Originally Posted By: SilverC6
Good looking Pure One.

Thanks for posting.



This is definetely one the Puro-haters dont want to see
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Well to quote another member on a similar positive P1 anecdote you definitely won't be invited to the 'honeycomb hideout' with this one.

And imo there have been and are dedicated purohaters, some readily admit it, some multi alias trolls now banned, that have used every opportunity bash Purolator. But with this one, hard to find anything negative to say, so mostly crickets chirping from them here.
 
Ok so Im not saying anyone was tampering with filters. Im not saying that there were not quality control issues. Im saying that the I like Purolator, and that every single one I have cut open to date has been fine. Take it as you will, but I think the above filter, made a couple months ago mind you, is just fine.
 
Originally Posted By: kozanoglu
Is it verified independently? Yes or no?


Members routinely cut open filters and it was noticed that filters made by Purolator (including Bosch and Motorcraft) were showing up with tears quite often.

There is a thread and spreadsheet attempting to keep track of all this.

I think that comes close to being independent verification unless you think that multiple members have colluded and this is some sort of conspiracy.

A quality manager from Purolator (therefore not independent) has advised concerned customers to purchase more recent stock due to the potential to benefit from undisclosed improvements.

If you have any suggestions for someone else to look at this, then feel free to make a constructive suggestion on who that would be.
 
Originally Posted By: jk_636
Ok so Im not saying anyone was tampering with filters. Im not saying that there were not quality control issues. Im saying that the I like Purolator, and that every single one I have cut open to date has been fine. Take it as you will, but I think the above filter, made a couple months ago mind you, is just fine.


Sure it is. Nobody is saying that 100% of their product is a problem.

What people are observing is a high enough incidence of issues that makes them not want to take a chance.

If you are going to go just by your own personal observations, then that's a little flawed imo.
 
Can we have a spread sheet of Purolator branded filters that did not show any signs of failure? Just curious. We could compare one set of data against the other and then figure out (percentage wise) how widespread the problem really is?
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Slow but sure, there have been more Purolators without tears posted lately. I wonder if they are slowly creeping out of the woods.

I recall one with a birthdate way before the issues even started.. which doesn't count IMO. But this one being made just last March is a prime example.

Also, I remember most of the bad Purolators being made around spring 2013. Can anyone confirm?
 
Cost is subjective. I think that it is a reasonably priced filter. I used to spend $4 on a filter that was changed twice in 6k miles. Now I spend $8 on a filter that runs 5k miles. Its all one in the same.
 
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P1 is kind of pricey to be a 5K mile filter, no? ..

At AAP using an easily found 30% off online code the common PL14610 can be had for ~$4.75 everyday. Buying in quantity and/or when on the 40% off codes that regularly show, even less. KMart also them regularly on sale ~$4.00. Seems very reasonable to me for a silicone adbv filter. That said just finished a 6700 miles/10 month oci with a PL14610 with no issues. And as mentioned by others the OP's looks to have been capable of double his fci had he chosen that route.

As for the database with positive P1s, going back to 2010 got lots of the PL14610's and variants like AAP Total Grips all posted with pics that I could add.
 
Originally Posted By: SlipperyPete
I'd rather use a Wix/Napa Gold or Fram TG for about the same cost and not have to change a filter half way through an OCI.


Once I get my used oil analysis back from Blackstone and decide how long I feel comfortable running my oil, I will stay with a synthetic media filter. This is the process of breaking away from the 3k miles OCI. This time I went 5k. That is progress!
 
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