Plan Going Forward with a 2015 F250 6.7 PSD

[Cedarshark]

New (to me) 3/4 ton with 52,400 miles. No service history so I paid for a carfax report and the oil was changed at a Valvoline Quick lube in a rural town outside Houston at intervals that appear to be by the IOLM. No indication as to the brand/type of oil or filter was, only that it was "changed". There is no indication the truck was used to tow anything since new. I am speculating that I bought a commuter truck that saw heavy stop/go Houston traffic in high heat. Of the total engine time (1800 hours), there is over 500 hours of idling.

Being retired in a small town, I fear that my current driving style 1) less than 5K annually 2) Short trips 3)semi annual trips pulling 8000lb travel trailer may put additional stress on this motor and certainly place it in what Ford classifies as "severe service".

After review of the last 50 pages of this HDEO forum, I tend to lean in the direction of "dNewtons" posts, which to me, make good sense.

1) I do not need a synthetic due to warm climate(over 100 here today).
2) Oil changes w/ not be extended milage but by time in the sump. My plan is annually unless the IOLM is triggered beforehand.
3) I would be fine with one of the top 3 conventional 15-40 or 10/30 HDEO dino oils.
4) I just changed the oil w/ Delvac 1300 Super w/ Wix filter and plan to do a UOA to establish a "baseline" going forward.

I know this has been hashed over a million times and I appreciate the time and patience you have taken to help a new member get off on the right foot going forward.

 

[JC1]

Welcome to the site!

Trucks are meant to be used. I think you'll be fine with what you have outlined as your plan.

Enjoy the new truck and post some pics when you get a chance.

 

[beanoil]

Any oil on the Ford approved list will be fine. That being said, Mobil 1300 is not on that list.
Conventional oil will do you well, especially in Texas.
I do not consider your description as severe service. Towing 8k, you won't even know it's hanging on. Short tripping and cruising around will cause more regen, and does pollute the oil a little quicker, but not enough to matter. Only a UOA will tell, but I bet you'll see that the OLM interval is fine.
Follow the OLM with an oil on the list, just like the PO did, which, (hopefully) is assuming Valvoline used either AllFleet or Premium Blue, both on the list.

 

[bullwinkle]

You can't beat a Big 3 15W40 for that truck, in hot weather, and towing. I personally use Delvac 1300 15W40 because of the rebates, it's easy to get gallons for less than $6 each AR.

 

[skyactiv]

I'm a semi truck emcanic for UPS. My advise? DON'T idle the truck needlessly. A lot of people let modern diesels warm up and it's no good for diesels with DPF and EGR. The engine is not strained due to pulling an 8K pound trailer. The yard shifter trucks I work on have a Cummins 6.7L that spend the day being floored hauling around more weight than that and those engines go about 25K hours before needing replaced.

 

[JLTD]

Your annual plan and oil choice both sound great.

 

[Cedarshark]

I found the Delvac on sale at Oreilleys for $13/gal and w/rebate it ends up $6/gal. Pulled the trigger before I found out here(thank you members) its not on Fords approved list. I will correct this next OCI. Does it make sense to you guys to do a baseline UOA on an oil (DelVac 1300) that you do not intend to use going forward ? Even though the top 3 15-40s are so close, performance wise.

 

[Cedarshark]

For those that asked for a pic.

 

[cb_13]

That’s a very nice looking truck. Don’t forget the most important thing on a diesel, the fuel filters!

 

[Cedarshark]

Originally Posted By: cb_13
That’s a very nice looking truck. Don’t forget the most important thing on a diesel, the fuel filters!


Good point. All filters(air,oil,and fuel) were replaced last week with the oil change. I wanted to begin my maintenance regimen with a clean slate. Thank you for the compliment on the truck. Although white is not my favorite color, it makes sense when you live in the middle of the Sahara.

 

[Cajun_Ford_6_4]

I'd still follow the special service interval regardless of use. Also think about using a fuel additive. The high pressure fuel systems in our 6.4s and 6.7s need additional lubrication.

 

[CT8]

Oil is not an issue with those trucks.

 

[claluja]

Like said above, replace fuel filters every couple oil changes. Get your fuel at places with high diesel turnover. Fuel and fuel filters are the most important thing with that truck, like others have said.

If it's stock, I'd use synthetic oil because 2-4% fuel dilution is not unusual with that engine. Synthetic handles fuel dilution better than dino. If you go dino, stick with 15w40 for the same reason.

If you do UOAs, don't use Blackstone if you want an accurate fuel dilution value.

 

[Cedarshark]

I still have some powertrain warranty left on this truck. Couple questions:

1) I erred by not consulting this forum before I did an oil change w/ DelVac 1300 which is not on Fords approved list. Would you run it for an OCI then do an oil analysis or drain it now and start over w/ an approved oil in the event of a warranty issue ?

2) I understand the value of oil analysis to check equipment condition but are UOAs helpful in warranty issues for those who change their own oil and keep records ?

 

[BeerCan]

1. Is the delvac cj or ck?. If it's cj no worries but ck technically can give you warranty issues *if* you had a lubrication related failure. Personally I think you are fine for 1 run.

2. Uoa are really only good for oil condition and the fun of knowing how oil holds up. Using them in a warranty fight may or may not help depending on the situation. Just having 1 is probably worthless but a complete history may have value. Lubrication failures are pretty rare so it's probably a non issue.

 

[racin4ds]

The 6.7 was the reason Ford came up with the whole "CK oils are no good" thing... I'd be selective since you still have warranty left and only use approved oils. Ford obviously found something they did NOT like in the new formulations to stir such a panic.

Being in Texas, I'd you don't have to worry about cold starts really, just make sure you run it hard every now and then. These things are not grocery getters and need worked! You have to get EGT's up and oil temps high to clean off contaminates and soot. Oh and 8,000lbs is a drop in the hat for that truck, you aren't even close to "severe duty"

I just pulled 14,000lbs of horses and [censored] from Northern VA to Florida in my 6.0 PSD and averaged 17mpg!

 

[Cedarshark]

Originally Posted By: BeerCan
1. Is the delvac cj or ck?. If it's cj no worries but ck technically can give you warranty issues *if* you had a lubrication related failure. Personally I think you are fine for 1 run.

2. Uoa are really only good for oil condition and the fun of knowing how oil holds up. Using them in a warranty fight may or may not help depending on the situation. Just having 1 is probably worthless but a complete history may have value. Lubrication failures are pretty rare so it's probably a non issue.
Originally Posted By: BeerCan
1. Is the delvac cj or ck?. If it's cj no worries but ck technically can give you warranty issues *if* you had a lubrication related failure. Personally I think you are fine for 1 run.

2. Uoa are really only good for oil condition and the fun of knowing how oil holds up. Using them in a warranty fight may or may not help depending on the situation. Just having 1 is probably worthless but a complete history may have value. Lubrication failures are pretty rare so it's probably a non issue.


Yes the oil that is in now is the dreaded "CK4". The prudent thing to do(w/ warranty remaining) is to dump it and refill w/ an approved oil although I do agree w/ you that there is really very little to be concerned about. Its not a total loss...I can use the old Delvac CK4 in my tractor.

 

[Cedarshark]

Originally Posted By: racin4ds
The 6.7 was the reason Ford came up with the whole "CK oils are no good" thing... I'd be selective since you still have warranty left and only use approved oils. Ford obviously found something they did NOT like in the new formulations to stir such a panic.

Being in Texas, I'd you don't have to worry about cold starts really, just make sure you run it hard every now and then. These things are not grocery getters and need worked! You have to get EGT's up and oil temps high to clean off contaminates and soot. Oh and 8,000lbs is a drop in the hat for that truck, you aren't even close to "severe duty"

I just pulled 14,000lbs of horses and [censored] from Northern VA to Florida in my 6.0 PSD and averaged 17mpg!


The reason I was concerned about being classified by Ford as "severe service" was not pulling an 8000 lb trailer but more short trips and bio-diesel is the only thing available here. Colds starts are not an issue here at all. Thanks for the help.

 

[Garak]

Originally Posted By: racin4ds
The 6.7 was the reason Ford came up with the whole "CK oils are no good" thing... I'd be selective since you still have warranty left and only use approved oils. Ford obviously found something they did NOT like in the new formulations to stir such a panic.

Or found something in their engines that they didn't like but could try the blame elsewhere.

 

[BrianF]

I agree with Garak on that. So CK4, which is supposed to supersede CJ4 and be superior in every way, somehow is kryptonite to the 6.7???? Surely not!!!! Mind you I should watch my mouth as I am running around with a 30 weight in my Cummins......