Permanent DST (Daylight Savings Time)

[PandaBear]

This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. If you want people to go to work or school the same time winter or summer then just tell them so, instead of lying to yourself and say the sun is on top of your head at 1pm instead of 12pm.

The whole point of DST is really so the sunrise align with your biological clock, it no longer save energy when we spend more on AC than lighting with LED.

 

[Snagglefoot]

Locations that are further south (closer to the equator) have less difference in the length of a day from winter to summer. Thus less reason to change the clocks.

+1 to that!

It seems it wouldn’t be an issue in Houston but might be in Edmonton. Www.sunrise-sunset.org

 

[FT92]

hope it stays one way or another, my preference is earlier sunrise. Due to my work, I start at 5 am so it seems I'm always driving to work in the dark

 

[MRC01]

It seems it wouldn’t be an issue in Houston but might be in Edmonton. ...

Exactly!
Personally, I'd prefer not to have DST even way up North in Alaska, but the point is that it might at least serve some purpose up there. Yet it serves no purpose whatsoever in Houston or closer to the equator.

 

[TCL]

Changing the clocks twice a year is stupid.

Absolutely stupid

 

[TCL]

How will we ever remember to change the smoke/carbon monoxide detector batteries?
Has there been a study if more people die in fires in Arizona or Hawaii because they can't remember?

 

[Snagglefoot]

A funny perception I discovered in Houston is having the sun set at 6:00 PM and it’s warm outside. That doesn’t happen in Northern Canada. Six pm sunsets happen in March and it might still be freezing .

 

[Gyro Gearloose]

Places that are on the trailing edge of a time zone, like Chattanooga, TN are effectively already on permanent daylight savings time and this will bump them yet another hour ahead. In the winter with full time DST, Chattanooga will not see a sunrise before *8:30* in the morning until some time in February. Everybody will be getting up, scraping frost, driving to work and sitting through the first hour of school in the dark.

 

[Snagglefoot]

The Yellowknife Golf club has the Canadian North Midnight Classic where they T-off at midnight. The first group plays in twilight and are done shortly after sunrise.
Put in in your bucket list.

 

[Gebo]

I'm good with either way. Just stick with one.

Selfishly, I like going to work and watching the sun rise and I like it getting dark sooner because it tends to bring the family in together.
IF I could be the time picker, I'd stay standard time. Just seems more "normal" to me.

 

[CharlesInCharge]

Let's just do away with time entirely!

 

[Passport1]

That is a good one... "I am not late kind sir... in my reality the time is precisely 11:00... who is to say your perception of time is more valid than mine?"

Precisely on time sir. We are all White Rabbits, two days late and deep down in the postmodern hole with Alice and the insane Queen of Hearts.

 

[MRC01]

How about eliminating time zones entirely? The entire world goes on GMT. Some places, the sun rises at 15:00 or whatever. It might take a while to get used to but the simplicity couldn't be beat.

And maybe at some point we will have metric time. None of this confusing base 24 and base 60 stuff. Just base 10 time units, a day is 86.4 kiloseconds. A week is 604.8 kiloseconds. A year is 31.56 megaseconds.

 

[ArrestMeRedZ]

During my working years I thought there was a special place in HE double hockey sticks for five people: Hitler, Stalin, Mao, the guy who invented speed bumps, and the guy who came up with Daylight Savings Time. I think Hawaii and Arizona are the only states that get it right.

I've never been able to go to bed early and get to sleep. Having to get up at 0430 is bad enough. Getting up at 0330 real time is worse. Yeah, now that I'm retired DST isn't bad since every day is Saturday, but it was a PITA when I was working.

 

[kschachn]

During my working years I thought there was a special place in HE double hockey sticks for five people: Hitler, Stalin, Mao, the guy who invented speed bumps, and the guy who came up with Daylight Savings Time. I think Hawaii and Arizona are the only states that get it right.

The degree of hysteria (yes hysteria) that surrounds this topic is amazing. You’d think HFCS had just been mandated in children’s applesauce given the level of hyperbole that’s used.

You all should complain to Canada and Germany considering they’re the ones who started using DST.

 

[simple_gifts]

Hundreds of thousands of computer systems will need to be patched (as they were when the dates of the change was actually changed) Problem is many companies run systems with out of support OS version and no patches will be released to stop the clocks from changing. Kerberos et al depends on synchronized clocks IIRC. Worse than having DST is to constantly muck around with when or if it occurs.

No hysteria here, just 100's of millions of $$ of non "value added" work, outages, problems.

 

[RDY4WAR]

100% in favor of permanent DST!

 

[PandaBear]

How will we ever remember to change the smoke/carbon monoxide detector batteries?
Has there been a study if more people die in fires in Arizona or Hawaii because they can't remember?

I though most of them moved to 10 year batteries and never requires changing within 10 years by now.

 

[K.Aoi]

Thank god. I hate that it's dark by 4:30 in the winter, this will be a huge improvement, and no more switching.

 

[supton]

I though most of them moved to 10 year batteries and never requires changing within 10 years by now.

I thought it was they moved to AC power instead. I guess there's nothing stopping from having a 10 year battery *and* AC power, but I'm not sure what the Venn diagram looks like for that. IMO the push for twice a year was because so many won't do it once a year--by attempting to push people 2x per year the odds are the vast majority will do it at least every other year, and thus the public is more or less safe.

That or they're in cahoots with the battery manufacturers. Probably more easy to believe that, given the how easy conspiracies are believed today.