Oversize alternative for Purolator 10241

[Kartman]

Hi,

I ran a search but could not find any related posts. I have a 2007 Tacoma (1GRFE V6 engine) and Purolator recommends a PL10241 filter in the Pure One line and the L10241 in the Premium Plus line. Does anyone know of an oversize alternative within the Purolator line that I can use?

Thanks in advance for any and all assistance.

 

[SWHeat]

Anything with a 3/4-16 thread that will fit if you have the room. Try L20195 as that is what works on my Prizm/Corolla.
You may have room for the massive L30001. Both sizes come in the Pure One variety as well.

 

[The_Champ]

Actually there are 3 different alternates for a PL10241. They are the L20089, L20195, or the L35098. I do recommend however the Mobil 1 M1-209 as a larger alternate if you are looking for a high performance filter.

 

[Kartman]

Thanks guys! Really appreciate the suggestions.

 

[Gary Allan]

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Actually there are 3 different alternates for a PL10241. They are the L20089, L20195, or the L35098. I do recommend however the Mobil 1 M1-209 as a larger alternate if you are looking for a high performance filter.

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There are more than that if he doesn't have can diameter restrictions.

 

[The_Champ]

I am going by direct alternates. Different diameter sized canisters can't always be used. I don't want somebody to go buy the largest filter they can find with the same thread size and similar gasket as their old filter to go home drain the oil out of their vehicle and find out there's not enough room for the filter. That is no fun for anybody.

 

[SWHeat]

Filter Champ: The only way to truly test if it will fit your application...is to try it on your application. If my oil pan was designed a 1/4 further away from the filter mount I could fit the massive PL3001 on it. How do I know that? Hopefully the guy has enough sense to have an OEM size around if the larger one does not fit. If not...

 

[INDYMAC]

I am using the PureOne 10241 on my 2000 Tundra V-8. There is enough room to use any size filter I want. What are the pros of a larger filter? Also, what are the cons? Why wouldn't Purolator just recommend the largest filter that would fit, if it would be of greater benefit?

 

[The_Champ]

You're right, but you know as well as I do, that not everyone is going to have the common sense to keep a couple extra OEMs around. That's what I was trying to say in my preious post.

 

[The_Champ]

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I am using the PureOne 10241 on my 2000 Tundra V-8. There is enough room to use any size filter I want. What are the pros of a larger filter? Also, what are the cons? Why wouldn't Purolator just recommend the largest filter that would fit, if it would be of greater benefit?

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Obviously the biggest pro in using a larger filter is the increased amount of media and oil holding capacity. Really the only con I can think of would be the room issue and that the smaller filter is what the OEM calls for. Filter companies all across the board call for the smaller filter on the Tundras for the reason that they are what the manufacturer(Toyota) calls for. I can't guarantee this but, if a warranty issue comes up with the vehicle and a non-oem sized filter was used(even if there was adequate room), there is a great possibility that the warranty will be voided by the dealership thus making problems for filter manufacturers, but again this is just speculation.

 

[dwendt44]

Since most all sized(car/lite truck) filters are priced the same, the largest filter that will fit has no real down side.
According to law, the mfg has to prove that the oversize filter was the cause of any engine problems.

 

[H2GURU]

Kartman,

http://www.wixfilters.com/filterlookup/PartDetail.asp?Part=51516

 

[INDYMAC]

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I am using the PureOne 10241 on my 2000 Tundra V-8. There is enough room to use any size filter I want. What are the pros of a larger filter? Also, what are the cons? Why wouldn't Purolator just recommend the largest filter that would fit, if it would be of greater benefit?

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Obviously the biggest pro in using a larger filter is the increased amount of media and oil holding capacity. Really the only con I can think of would be the room issue and that the smaller filter is what the OEM calls for. Filter companies all across the board call for the smaller filter on the Tundras for the reason that they are what the manufacturer(Toyota) calls for. I can't guarantee this but, if a warranty issue comes up with the vehicle and a non-oem sized filter was used(even if there was adequate room), there is a great possibility that the warranty will be voided by the dealership thus making problems for filter manufacturers, but again this is just speculation.

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Thanks Champ. With 134K miles on a 8 year old truck, I'm not concerned about warranties anymore. I am interested in gaining a lubrication advantage still though. I guess my real question is, all things being equal, has anyone actually noticed a significant advantage to running a oversized filter of the same brand based on UOA's, engine noise or any other indicators of better lubrication or filtration over say a 5K mile OCI? I'm not really interested in spending more money because it "might be better".

 

[Gary Allan]

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I'm not really interested in spending more money because it "might be better".

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The size of a filter typically doesn't make it cost any more

It's a passive action that's "reasoned". I'm sure some larger filters use the same media as the smaller filters ...as I'm just as sure that some smaller filters use superior media to get the OEM spec.

I'll venture that no one has noticed any "advantage" in any tangible way by using larger filters. Except maybe if you've got some uneven sump size ..and then you may not have any odd fractional quarts left over.

 

[Kartman]

Posting an image of the three filters that have been on my truck thus far. As you can see, the OEM Toyota filter that came installed from the factory is the largest one. Trying to find a filter that is as large or perhaps larger than the OEM version with better filtering capabilities to extend my OCI's. The bottom picture shows that I don't have any height restrictions as to how long the filter can be. Thanks for all the great responses thus far!

 

[SWHeat]

It looks like the biggest you will be able to do is the L20195. The other options require more girth and you don't have the space for a wider filter. The L20195 size is the longest of the automotive filters in that width that is easily obtainable and has the right features.

 

[Gary Allan]

Looks like you have tolerance for about a 3.3x can. I don't have a Wix master catalog ..but someone should be able to find the 3/4-16 thread section and list them by can diameter

It runs like this:

2.6x (ex: 51394
2.9x (51348, 51516)
3.x
3.3x (?
3.6x (51515, 51068, etc)
and so on....

 

[Gary Allan]

A little higher bypass valve setting ...

Part Number: 51460
UPC Number: 765809514607
Principal Application: A-C, Eicher, Hyster, JCB, M-F, Perkins Engines
All Applications
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 5.811
Outer Diameter Top: 2.966
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 3/4-16
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 15-17
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Beta Ratio: 2/20=6/19
Burst Pressure-PSI: 300
Max Flow Rate: 7-9 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 25

Gasket Diameters
Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
Attached 2.740 2.370 0.275

compare it to the 51516
Compare to the FL400S size..

Part Number: 51516
UPC Number: 765809515161
Principal Application: Ford/Mercury (81-07), Chrysler/Jeep (02-07), Mazda Trucks (94-07)
All Applications
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 4.828
Outer Diameter Top: 2.921
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 3/4-16
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 8-11
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Beta Ratio: 2/20=14/31
Burst Pressure-PSI: 275
Max Flow Rate: 7-9 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 20

Gasket Diameters
Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
Attached 2.734 2.430 0.226

 

[BennyL]

my Lexus SC400 takes that size filter. only problem is, they stuck it in between a bunch of metal hoses, so even the OEM size is hard enough to squeeze in to place. no chance i can fit a longer can on there. no way.