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@Skippy722 what happens if you use 0W-30 or 0W-40 in one of these upgraded Pentastar V6 engines?
Most likely nothing. I ran 0w40 in my Pentastars (neither was PUG) and the only difference was 40psi hot cruising oil pressure instead of 30psi.@Skippy722 what happens if you use 0W-30 or 0W-40 in one of these upgraded Pentastar V6 engines?
The Charger, Challenger, and 300 are still using the 1st generation Pentastar.Wow, that's pretty cool! Do you know if they have the same V6 engine in the Charger from 2016 until now? Thank you.
Most likely nothing. I ran 0w40 in my Pentastars (neither was PUG) and the only difference was 40psi hot cruising oil pressure instead of 30psi.
I think I am going to do it once my gasket is due for change.I have often wondered about doing the same on my E90 N52. The water cooled heat exchanger would also warm the oil up faster in the winter which would be another good benefit. The N55 in the F3X chassis cars got both the oil cooler and the oil heat exchanger attached to the OFH, although that is a nightmare of plumbing when you have to work on the front of the motor.
the Hemi is NOT a Hemi for a long time!!! typical BS marketing to sell as our governments allows outright LIES about many things!!!
Clearly I am missing something. Can you explain?
I think he's running with the fact that the modern HEMI's combustion chamber isn't a true hemisphere and rolling it into some wild conspiracy. HEMI is of course a trademark owned by FCA, so the fact that the current iteration has quench areas on either side of the chamber (not much different from the BOSS 429 having the same despite having an otherwise hemispherical chamber) is really irrelevant to what they call the engine.
Ah. Well that shows my ignorance on the subject. I was unaware that is why they were named "HEMI". HEMI = EcoBoost = EcoTec = SkyActive = Earthdreams = TSI in my mind. It's just a name given to an engine by the manufacturer.
It's interesting though that German automotive engineers never pushed for light motor oils.
I think that’s due to the European philosophy toward fuel conservation (and maybe engine design?) that prevailed until fairly recently. The European strategy has long been to use sky-high fuel prices as the mechanism for fuel conservation, rather than to try to directly regulate auto manufacturers into making their engines more fuel efficient.
I remember when a Mercedes V8 needed 8.5-9 quarts of oil to fill the sump and a Porsche can easily swallow 12 quarts of oil. SBCs took a gallon of oil. But dry sumps like that found on the newer Corvette, Harleys and the GT40/LFA don’t take that much oil. I was watching a video of a Lexus dealer tech changing oil on an LFA, it took 2 5qt jugs of M1 5W-50. I was expecting a 12-14qt capacity when the oil tank, coolers and lines were accounted for.German auto manufacturers have also used thicker oils to compensate for cost-cutting. Well, at least they did that much. What's worrisome is when I see a Honda 1.5T engine that takes 3.7 quarts of 0W-20 oil, filter included. It's an economy class engine, built to a price point, with all possible corners cut. At the very least, Honda could have given this motor a bigger sump so that motor oil can stay fresh longer. It would have given this engine a fighting chance to deal with fuel dilution. About 5 to 6 quarts would have been right.
Kind of like a Vortec, isnt' really a Vortec anymore. They just use the name.I think he's running with the fact that the modern HEMI's combustion chamber isn't a true hemisphere and rolling it into some wild conspiracy. HEMI is of course a trademark owned by FCA, so the fact that the current iteration has quench areas on either side of the chamber (not much different from the BOSS 429 having the same despite having an otherwise hemispherical chamber) is really irrelevant to what they call the engine.
I do. The 300 very rarely exceeded 185F on the oil, the Ram likes to sit around 210F. The Ram definitely comes up to temp quicker than the 300 ever did.
Kind of like a Vortec, isnt' really a Vortec anymore. They just use the name.
I remember when a Mercedes V8 needed 8.5-9 quarts of oil to fill the sump and a Porsche can easily swallow 12 quarts of oil. SBCs took a gallon of oil. But dry sumps like that found on the newer Corvette, Harleys and the GT40/LFA don’t take that much oil. I was watching a video of a Lexus dealer tech changing oil on an LFA, it took 2 5qt jugs of M1 5W-50. I was expecting a 12-14qt capacity when the oil tank, coolers and lines were accounted for.
Daimler’s reasoning that more oil capacity allowed for some passive cooling via increased thermal mass and longer drain intervals. On a small NA engine like the one found in a Fit I can see a 3qt sump. Some Toyotas and Subarus use a liquid-to-liquid oil cooler plumbed with the cooling system but even so their sumps are kinda small(5-6qt with filter). Nissan tends to be the worst offender with small oil pans but they don’t sludge up as much as say, a Toyota or VW does.
There is a kit out there I believe that has everything included from BMW for the 52s. I think it was more of an issue for the turbos, one of our customers tracks her 328xi and said she never saw above 2 ticks past the halfway, so I think the change would be negligible. Not worth the investment most likely.My N52 does not have OFH with heat exchanger. I am wondering how much it would help if I add OFH from N52's for 528, X3? You familiar with that?
For one, increased oil dilution but we haven’t seen Honda’s 1.5T drop like flies left and right but the jury is out on engine life. The GM 1.4T seems to be hard on oil but GM has their own oil spec that goes above and beyond API/ILSAC specs to mitigate some of those risks inherent in a small, TGDI engine.To what do smaller sumps, thinner oils, and gasoline direct injection add up?