Oil for classic car - Canada

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Good day all,

I have an original, well taken care of, 1966 Olds Toronado with an unmolested 425 high compression engine and I live up here in Canada. I've been struggling trying to figure out what oil to use in the thing. 80,000 miles on the odometer and it runs great. The owners manual calls for 10W-30 oil but of course this was mid 60's oil.

Now, I've done a bunch of research and for these flat tappet engines everyone seems to recommend Valvoline VR1 as it seems to have the right amount of ZDDP for this engine, amongst other things. Now, here's the important factor......here in Canada we cannot get VR1 in 10W-30. The ONLY weight available here in that brand is 20W-50 which isn't quite right for this car. I've also seen Castrol Classic, but again the only version is the 20W-50. I've seen Lucas Hot Rod oil, however it almost seems like that stuff has way too much zinc (now, I could be wrong about that). All the well recommeded high zinc oils do not seem to be available here.

Anyway, the important thing here is my location......Canada. We do not have the selections that you have in the states. Everyone starts talking about Driven oil, VR1, etc and the reality is you just can't get any of those here. When it comes to these oils, I'm betting there's some sort of government regulation going on here.

In the meantime, I've just been using Shell Rotella T4 10W-30. If I can't locate a better oil, is this stuff alright to use in my car? Should I bump up to the 15W-40 version or just keep on keepin on with 10W30? Maybe someone knows of a better oil that is actually available here?

Thanks!
 
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Even if it is a flat tappet engine, those do not require high ZDDP oils for operation. Only on initial break-in.

Any Euro 40-grade such as Mobil 1 0W-40 is appropriate for that engine and has more than sufficient ZDDP as required. Walmart also has Quaker State Euro for a very good price.

No need to struggle any longer. Post some pictures of this 1966 beast, we all like pictures.
 
There's nothing wrong with using 40 or 50 grade in these engines. I ran 20w-50 instead of 5w-20 in my ford that had zero issues just because I felt like it and it ran perfectly. Why wouldn't that either, it likely has the same if not wider bearings and a flat tappet appreciates more hths.

Also I don't think those are high spring tension engines. Castrol edge 5w-50 a3/b4 is available at canadian tire for $55 a jug and its sulphated ash mass is 1.2% so it's not a low saps oil. More mid to high so it's not low anti wear additives.

 
Thanks for the replies folks, I'd prefer to stick with the 10W-30 weight though as that's what the manual calls for. Here she is:

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In the meantime, I've just been using Shell Rotella T4 10W-30. If I can't locate a better oil, is this stuff alright to use in my car? Should I bump up to the 15W-40 version or just keep on keepin on with 10W30?
The 10W-30 should be plenty thick enough. HDEOs in that grade have a much higher HTHS than a PCMO, along with the most stringent shear stability requirements of any oil standard. HTHS standards didn't even exist back in the 60's either, and many oils on the market were effectively thinner than their modern day equivalents.

I'd stick with the Rotella 10W-30. A euro 5W-30 or 5W-40 with 800+ ppm phosphorus should be fine as well, but a lot more expensive, and you don't need a 5W for a summer car.
 
Valvoline 10w30 VR1 can be bought off Amazon.ca, either the synthetic or non synthetic, usually around $58-$60 for 6 quarts, with free delivery, I bought 12 of the synthetic in black bottles last year.
 
Valvoline 10w30 VR1 can be bought off Amazon.ca, either the synthetic or non synthetic, usually around $58-$60 for 6 quarts, with free delivery, I bought 12 of the synthetic in black bottles last year.

Ahh, that's good to know. I mean, it's a little pricey but not too bad all things considered. Thanks for that.
 
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