Oil for 2.0 Skyactiv - Battle of the 0w-20

[brillo54]

I would 100% run a 5W-30

or a 0w30.

 

[stormgol]

PUP 0W20 on sale at Canadian Tire. or Castrol EP 0W20 on sale at the same place. and they always have rebates. close to boutique oil performance, at a fraction of the cost.

 

[penz08]

Well, I have been a longtime exclusive Mobil 1 user, well about 30 years. It’s never done me wrong and I haven’t had any issues with any of the motors I’ve used it in. That being said, I change the oil everytime I purchase a car, usually once a year or more, and I have noticed that quite a few get a lot more “clattery” after the change. Just recently I purchased a Hemi Durango that you couldn’t tell was running when I bought it. Drove it 5 hours home, pulled it in the driveway to show the wife and she asked why I shut it off, she wanted me to rev it. It was still running. I then did my oil change to Mobil 1 and you would have swore I engine swapped a small diesel. We drove about 3000 miles like that and it was getting to me. I messaged the person I got it from and asked him what he was using and was told “Valvoline full synthetic”. I picked up some Valvoline Advanced and changed it immediately. I’m happy to report the clatter went away completely. I was just at the gas station and had to put my ear to the front grill to hear that it was still running. Very impressed with Valvoline currently and plan to switch all my vehicles on the next change.

I've heard this clatter story before, but on a different engine. Did you went back to Mobil 1 or kept going with Valvoline Advanced?

 

[penz08]

or a 0w30.

are you running 0w30 in your CX-5?

 

[brillo54]

are you running 0w30 in your CX-5?

I have run M1 AFE 0w30, but right now I'm running QS FS 5w30. I'm planning to run M1 ESP 0w30 for my next OCI.

 

[penz08]

I have run M1 AFE 0w30, but right now I'm running QS FS 5w30. I'm planning to run M1 ESP 0w30 for my next OCI.

Have you noticed a slight drop in MPG with 0w30 AFE?

 

[swrve]

I've heard this clatter story before, but on a different engine. Did you went back to Mobil 1 or kept going with Valvoline Advanced?

Well, this just happened about two weeks ago. I plan to stay with Valvoline Advanced moving forward on all of my vehicles.

 

[tcp71]

I run pennzoil euro LX 0w30 year round. Can't tell any mileage drop.

 

[brillo54]

Have you noticed a slight drop in MPG with 0w30 AFE?

No, I've tried the M1 AFE 0w30, and 5w30 in QS FS and PP FS and none have hurt my MPG.
For a little background, I used Mazda moly 0w20 for the first 60k miles, then Castrol Edge 0w20 for about 15k miles. After that I started experimenting with Xw30s.

 

[penz08]

No, I've tried the M1 AFE 0w30, and 5w30 in QS FS and PP FS and none have hurt my MPG.
For a little background, I used Mazda moly 0w20 for the first 60k miles, then Castrol Edge 0w20 for about 15k miles. After that I started experimenting with Xw30s.

Oh nice you were able to get Mazda Moly, I don't think it's available here in Canada, only in US from what I read online. Curious if its similar formulation like Toyota oil with high moly, not sure if its still is...

 

[brillo54]

Curious if its similar formulation like Toyota oil with high moly, not sure if its still is...

It was made for Mazda by Idemitsu and had a higher moly content but since it's a GF-5 oil it seems kinda dated now. I think I read somewhere that Mazda has a GF-6 oil available but I don't know anything about it.

 

[GaryMX5]

Traded in my 2018 Mazda3 on a 25 CX30 not to long ago. The 3 got QS full syn the whole time I owned it in both 0w20 then 5w30 (once it was out of warranty). I went with QS for it's moly content which Mazda seems to push whether it's needed or not. Usually easy to find at Walmart and tends to cost a little less than other big name oils.

 

[penz08]

All the more reason not to change a thing.

Right? Maybe I should pay a few bucks more and stick to Magnatec 0w20, the intelligent molecules seems to work great....

 

[penz08]

Well, I have been a longtime exclusive Mobil 1 user, well about 30 years. It’s never done me wrong and I haven’t had any issues with any of the motors I’ve used it in. That being said, I change the oil everytime I purchase a car, usually once a year or more, and I have noticed that quite a few get a lot more “clattery” after the change. Just recently I purchased a Hemi Durango that you couldn’t tell was running when I bought it. Drove it 5 hours home, pulled it in the driveway to show the wife and she asked why I shut it off, she wanted me to rev it. It was still running. I then did my oil change to Mobil 1 and you would have swore I engine swapped a small diesel. We drove about 3000 miles like that and it was getting to me. I messaged the person I got it from and asked him what he was using and was told “Valvoline full synthetic”. I picked up some Valvoline Advanced and changed it immediately. I’m happy to report the clatter went away completely. I was just at the gas station and had to put my ear to the front grill to hear that it was still running. Very impressed with Valvoline currently and plan to switch all my vehicles on the next change.

Seems Valvoline is the new hype, with a good dose of Moly in it, Advanced is very popular and often on sale at WM.

 

[MalibuRam65]

Seems Valvoline is the new hype, with a good dose of Moly in it, Advanced is very popular and often on sale at WM.

Don’t say that too loud on this site . Pennzoil is golden child here ok they can do no wrong

 

[slo town]

The real issue here isn’t the oil you’re using, it’s whether you’re draining and filling your coolant every 4 years/40k km, and changing the diff, trans, brake and other fluids on time as well!

This! ^^^^

Scott

 

[penz08]

This! ^^^^

Scott

I do think 40k km for coolant is overkill, I drive 40k km per year. I changed it in reference to owners manual which states 196k km or so, which is reasonable for my application and climate I'm in. Although, this post was about 0w20 for oil geeks like us

 

[Patman]

I do think 40k km for coolant is overkill, I drive 40k km per year. I changed it in reference to owners manual which states 196k km or so, which is reasonable for my application and climate I'm in. Although, this post was about 0w20 for oil geeks like us

I also agree that is overkill for coolant changes. I just did the first coolant change on my 2016 Civic a month ago, at 266,000 km. I am getting the coolant in my 2018 Corvette changed for the first time next week, it has 107,000 km on it. Modern coolant lasts way longer than the stuff from 30+ years ago.

 

[Urshurak776]

I also agree that is overkill for coolant changes. I just did the first coolant change on my 2016 Civic a month ago, at 266,000 km. I am getting the coolant in my 2018 Corvette changed for the first time next week, it has 107,000 km on it. Modern coolant lasts way longer than the stuff from 30+ years ago.

Agree. I'm at the point now where I do a drain and fill after 75K. Then again at 100K, then every 30K after that.

I also check before winter and summer to make sure the temp range is good (not a big issue in South Carolina to be honest...)

With modern formulas, no reason, for me anyway, to do full system flushes anymore.

 

[penz08]

I also agree that is overkill for coolant changes. I just did the first coolant change on my 2016 Civic a month ago, at 266,000 km. I am getting the coolant in my 2018 Corvette changed for the first time next week, it has 107,000 km on it. Modern coolant lasts way longer than the stuff from 30+ years ago.

exactly, and I have the OEM, durable stuff, which is roughly 30-35$ a gallon CAD. I never needed to add any in 220 000 km since the car in brand new, mostly highway driving, winter and summer. I use OEM Mazda stuff though always.