oil Filter long drain interval

[Baveux]

Ok WIX XP, Fram TG are designed to withstand long interval with synthetic oil filtering media.

Now I am using a Motorcraft FL500S on my F150 following the OLM. usually the oil change warning show up around 14500 km or if you prefer 9000 miles .

There is no mention on the Motorcraft filter that it is designed for long drain interval and that the media is specifically designed for synthetic oil. No wire mesh reinforcement either in that filter so.... Even if Ford recommend this filter would It be better to use a filter specifically design for long drain like the wix xp or the fram TG ?

 

[ZeeOSix]

If Ford says to change the oil and filter per the OLM (or they say by 10K miles, which ever happens first), the their Motorcraft filter is up to the task. Ford would not say go up to 10K miles on oil and filter if their own filter wasn't good for it.

 

[bbhero]

Yeah I think you are right about that zee. The Motorcraft should be up to it..

 

[joekingcorvette]

Yes, I would say you are good to go as well. I am kind of old school and have a hard time going that long but it shouldn't hurt anything. As others have said the body will fall apart before the engine in most cases.

 

[WobblyElvis]

Paper/cellulose oil filters have been spec'd to go 15,000 miles since the 70's. All filters are guaranteed to go the service life as specified in the owner's manual of the vehicle. In this case the OLM, says 9,000 miles no problem. There is no such thing as a 5,000 mile filter. Show me an ad or specification in writing where a filter manufacturer says some thing like "don't exceed 5,000 miles". A ford truck using a ford filter according to the OLM is by the book. Nothing to worry about. Follow the owner's manual.

 

[Greggy_D]

Originally Posted by WobblyElvis
There is no such thing as a 5,000 mile filter. Show me an ad or specification in writing where a filter manufacturer says some thing like "don't exceed 5,000 miles".


Here's one:

http://www.pureoil.com/en/do-it-yourself/oil-filters/purolator/

Up to 5,000 miles of engine protection**
*When used with a full synthetic oil.

 

[WellOiled]

Originally Posted by WobblyElvis
Paper/cellulose oil filters have been spec'd to go 15,000 miles since the 70's. All filters are guaranteed to go the service life as specified in the owner's manual of the vehicle. In this case the OLM, says 9,000 miles no problem. There is no such thing as a 5,000 mile filter. Show me an ad or specification in writing where a filter manufacturer says some thing like "don't exceed 5,000 miles". A ford truck using a ford filter according to the OLM is by the book. Nothing to worry about. Follow the owner's manual.

Here's another one:

https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/PSW21372

"Important Information: Oil Drain Intervals Of Up To 5000 Miles / 8000 Kilometers
For Oil Drain Intervals Of Up To 5,000 Miles/8,000 Kilometers"

 

[Baveux]

It looks like there is no advantage to look elsewhere ,

Fram XG 10575 will be my second choice if I ever go another route.

I've asked Wix a simple question ... their robot reply received this morning was not answering my question at all so .... no Wix for me

 

[WobblyElvis]

Read their guarantee/warranty. It does not say "do not exceed 5,000 miles" . It's a recommendation. If you call the tech department of Fram or Purolator or any major manufacturer they well tell you their filters are good for what it says in the owner's manual and that the "up to 5,000 miles is only a recommendations.

Just like any other business the advertising is misleading in the favour of increased sales. The local oil change shop recommends I change my oil every 3,000 miles but I know that is nonsense.

 

[Ablebody]

Originally Posted by Baveux
Ok WIX XP, Fram TG are designed to withstand long interval with synthetic oil filtering media.

Now I am using a Motorcraft FL500S on my F150 following the OLM. usually the oil change warning show up around 14500 km or if you prefer 9000 miles .

There is no mention on the Motorcraft filter that it is designed for long drain interval and that the media is specifically designed for synthetic oil. No wire mesh reinforcement either in that filter so.... Even if Ford recommend this filter would It be better to use a filter specifically design for long drain like the wix xp or the fram TG ?

It's designed to go for the full interval. So if you change your filter every time you change the oil you golden no need to use anything else. If you wanna extend then a wix xp or m1, or royal purple, boss, amsoil ea might be worth looking into

 

[WyrTwister]

Remember , Ford and the other manufacturers are in the business of selling vehicles and parts .

 

[maxdustington]

10k miles is probably the max mileage I would run on a normal cellulose: Fram EG, MC, Puro etc. If you run those for 10k, that's a great value. It should be able to do that easily on a non-sludged engine.

 

[bullwinkle]

I wouldn't push a TOUGH Guard past 10K, but I would (& have) pushed an ULTRA to 20K.

 

[bullwinkle]

Originally Posted by WyrTwister
Remember , Ford and the other manufacturers are in the business of selling vehicles and parts .
And NOT PAYING for warranty repairs whenever possible-always obey the OEM recommendations under warranty! Then start experimenting.

 

[Greggy_D]

Originally Posted by WobblyElvis
Read their guarantee/warranty. It does not say "do not exceed 5,000 miles" . It's a recommendation.


And? You asked us: "There is no such thing as a 5,000 mile filter. Show me an ad or specification in writing where a filter manufacturer says some thing like "don't exceed 5,000 miles".

We gave you two examples.

 

[wdn]

Originally Posted by Baveux
It looks like there is no advantage to look elsewhere ,

Fram XG 10575 will be my second choice if I ever go another route.

I've asked Wix a simple question ... their robot reply received this morning was not answering my question at all so .... no Wix for me


The WIX filters warranty statement is easy to find on their home page, but here it is:

http://www.wixfilters.com/warranty/doc/Wix_US_English.pdf


And as for Fram, they do not warranty any of their oil filters for extended oil changes, i.e. defined as "going beyond what the car manufacturer states in your owner manual".

Since Canada does not have a Moss Magnuson warranty act, for Canadians with a car under manufacturer's warranty my suggestion would be use the OEM filter only.

 

[Linctex]

Back in the 90's, I ran a FL-1A Motorcraft to 30,000 miles (3X oil changes) on a clean 400M in a F250.

It looked great when disassembled.

In those days, it was considered a premium filter. Probably not so much anymore.

 

[53' Stude]

Originally Posted by bullwinkle
I wouldn't push a TOUGH Guard past 10K, but I would (& have) pushed an ULTRA to 20K.



I pushed A tough guard to 20k

 

[maxdustington]

Originally Posted by wdn
Since Canada does not have a Moss Magnuson warranty act, for Canadians with a car under manufacturer's warranty my suggestion would be use the OEM filter only.
No lemon law either. Makes me anxious about buying a brand new car and getting one with a problem that the dealership cannot/will not fix under warranty.

 

[WellOiled]

Originally Posted by 53' Stude
Originally Posted by bullwinkle
I wouldn't push a TOUGH Guard past 10K, but I would (& have) pushed an ULTRA to 20K.



I pushed A tough guard to 20k

I concede. You are braver than I am.