Oil brand/Viscosity for Honda GVC 160 whats best?

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the governor controls the RPM no matter what kind of oil is in there.
The governor is set at ~3000RPM. The engine will run at 4000 easily.
It may run smoother, quieter, etc.. but not faster.
It can be set to run faster, but a change in oil won't do it.
 
Right. I know you got it. It was that Canadian that didn't explore the obvious before posting.Lol.
 
Originally Posted By: dwendt44
the governor controls the RPM no matter what kind of oil is in there.
The governor is set at ~3000RPM. The engine will run at 4000 easily.
It may run smoother, quieter, etc.. but not faster.
It can be set to run faster, but a change in oil won't do it.


I have to disagree. If the Governor was electrical (like the modern day FI engine controls are), then yes, I would agree, but as a mechanical governor, the 3000 rpm has a +/- to it, and changes in oil viscosity can affect it, but not enough for the mechanical governor to catch it. Case in point is some engines running slightly slower when cold (oil thicker) than when hot (lower viscosity). My Honda mower will run slightly slower for about the first 2-3 minutes before RPM rises, even though it is governed at 3000 all the time.
 
I bought that same lawnmower 9 weeks ago and I'm having a serious problem with it. My wife won't let me use it anymore. I mowed the lawn with it 1 time. It is the best lawnmower I have ever owned. 6 weeks ago I took my big boat 90 miles out into the gulfstream to catch some dolphin. I was gone about 12 hrs. While I was gone she broke a cardinal rule of mine. She is not allowed to touch any of my mechanical devices. She mowed the lawn with my new mower. She gassed it up, checked the oil, cleaned it when she was done, and even waxed the thing. Now she mows the lawn when I'm at work or fishing. She loves it because it runs so smooth and is so light weight with it's aluminum deck. Well, I guess I'll go fishing tomorrow and have some fun and not have to worry about the grass. Maybe you will luck out and have the same problem!
 
Originally Posted By: gwdriver
I bought that same lawnmower 9 weeks ago and I'm having a serious problem with it. My wife won't let me use it anymore. I mowed the lawn with it 1 time. It is the best lawnmower I have ever owned. 6 weeks ago I took my big boat 90 miles out into the gulfstream to catch some dolphin. I was gone about 12 hrs. While I was gone she broke a cardinal rule of mine. She is not allowed to touch any of my mechanical devices. She mowed the lawn with my new mower. She gassed it up, checked the oil, cleaned it when she was done, and even waxed the thing. Now she mows the lawn when I'm at work or fishing. She loves it because it runs so smooth and is so light weight with it's aluminum deck. Well, I guess I'll go fishing tomorrow and have some fun and not have to worry about the grass. Maybe you will luck out and have the same problem!

Thanks for the review, thats the first one I have found for this mower!....Sounds like your wife is pretty cool, Althogh I'd still prefer mine not touching my power equipment!
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Originally Posted By: Tim H.
Originally Posted By: Craig in Canada
Originally Posted By: FZ1
M1 EP 10-30 changed 2x per year. Runs smoother and turns a few more RPMS with the synthetic.


Why would your governor behave differently with synthetic in the case? I smell placebo.
M1 oils are known to be at the 'thinner' range of the viscosity lines. Perhaps his 'placebo' is actually a result of less viscous drag?


The governor's job is to maintain steady RPM regardless of engine load (and oil type used). If the statement is true, then M1 is causing his governor to malfunction. (read as: unlikely, and placebo)

Unless, of course, the poster intended to say that it seems to bog down less and maintain higher revs under heavy loads. That's possible, but I'd probably still call placebo on that...
 
Originally Posted By: Tim H.
Originally Posted By: dwendt44
the governor controls the RPM no matter what kind of oil is in there.
The governor is set at ~3000RPM. The engine will run at 4000 easily.
It may run smoother, quieter, etc.. but not faster.
It can be set to run faster, but a change in oil won't do it.


I have to disagree. If the Governor was electrical (like the modern day FI engine controls are), then yes, I would agree, but as a mechanical governor, the 3000 rpm has a +/- to it, and changes in oil viscosity can affect it, but not enough for the mechanical governor to catch it. Case in point is some engines running slightly slower when cold (oil thicker) than when hot (lower viscosity). My Honda mower will run slightly slower for about the first 2-3 minutes before RPM rises, even though it is governed at 3000 all the time.


There could be other explanations for that besides cold oil. Do you actually expect that the extra load from slightly thicker oil (ie. "thin" 10cSt M1 vs. a 12+cSt ACEA A3 30 weight) is going to cause any measurable difference in engine load compared to engaging the blade and cutting grass, as far as the governor is concerned? I'm not sure why so many people expect the resistance from an oil slinger to present so much load on small engines.....

Alternative explanations for running a little slower when cold started include variance in the governor itself. If it's an air vane type, for instance, it'll be blowing cold ambient air instead of heated near-engine air for the first while. That colder air is more dense and thus fewer RPM is required to push the vane to the "set point" RPM. Just an example to get you thinking, I have no idea of the specifics of your units.

Another alternative may be that the revs are not actually lower, but larger throttle angles may be required. This extra intake noise when under no load compared to when at full operating temperature may make the pitch of the machine sound lower. Have you MEASURED the RPM with a tachometer, or are you going by ear?
 
A cold engine may sound like it's running slower until it warms up completely.
The increase in throttle opening makes some sense too.
The Honda governor is a centrifical type, no the vane type.
If it's submerged in oil, THEN a thick oil might have a small effect on the RPM; I haven't had one apart, so I don't know if it's IN the oil.
 
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