Yes, your doctor can call you fat because that IS his/her business. You'd feel the same if some person at the mall walked up to you and said, "Hey fatty, lose weight?"
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This is just an excuse, like any measurement this pertains to the vast majority of Americans, not the small percentage you speak of.
One very inconvenient truth for example someone who is 5‘11“ tall the BMI chart allows for a 40 pound swing and you are still within your healthy weight.
Now come on really? You could be 40 pounds heavier than someone at the low range of the chart, and still be within a healthy BMI.
It’s just another inconvenient truth for the vast majority of Americans
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Ya **** right maybe in a grocery some fatty getting some cinnamon buns tell them the truth why he shouldn’t be eating the dang cinnamon buns. I would have been better off if someone did it to me. Do you honestly think that person wants to be fat honestly answer that question I’m betting he or she don’t
So smokers, normal-weight people who are not obese but have crappy diets, heavy drinkers who are not quite alcoholics, PEOPLE WHO SPEED, people who don't take their meds, people who aren't fully up on their vaccinations, people who are normal weight but do not exercise, people who work in dangerous occupations, etc, etc, etc who ALLLLL have effects on insurance rates should be the business of others?
Said another way, the only people with a right to privacy are perfectly healthy, normal-weight people with no vices or risk factors for any disease or occupational hazzard?
Ok...
Lol...you are truly the exception. Few people respond well to that kind of input because you REALLY did not know you were fat because you ate foods like cinnamon buns and if it weren't for this brave bystander's comment you would've had no clue? Double lol...you're full of poop or really not all that knowledgeable.
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You do know, smokers pay, higher, healthcare insurance costs, don’t you?????
You do know, smokers pay higher life insurance cost as well don’t you??? V
You do know some corporations check by administering a blood test to see if you smoke.
But it’s OK to ignore another leading cause may be the biggest cause of the burden of insurance costs that other people have to pay for overweight people.
Gosh, there is always just an excuse not to be responsible. However, if people had to pay for their irresponsibility, maybe they would get healthier live a better life and a better life for the family.
Couldn't help but wonder as this person I'd really rather not know told me of his medical problems (some of which which involve joint pain) just how much of his weight (he's something like 5' 5" and 250 lbs) contributes to the problem. He blames his weight on the medication he's on. I don't honestly think he's got the mental faculties to count calories if he were ever inclined to. Oh btw he's a medicaid patient on SSI.
and that’s what’s wrong with society we’re afraid to tell it the way it is don’t wanna hurt someones feelings FN buck up in life
No. People should endure insurance rates commensurate with their behavior.
Moving violation convictions raise your insurance rates.
People who do the right thing shouldn't pay for for those who don't.
A trim gal I knew grabbed my fat roll and really gave me a wake up call. That makes me a 'true exception' too.
Moving violation convictions raise your insurance rates.
People who do the right thing shouldn't pay for for those who don't.
A trim gal I knew grabbed my fat roll and really gave me a wake up call. That makes me a 'true exception' too.
I don't think it's as cut and dry as most make it out to be. There are some people that have a predisposition for obesity, some that are just lazy, some that can't control their eating habits, some that grow up poor never learning how to eat properly, some that just don't give a ****, all living in a country with an abundance of processed food. It does take will power to eat healthy. I don't always do it. I eat sweets like there's no tomorrow. But I watch what I eat overall and try to balance my diet. I'm more of a eat everything in moderation person.
It really is a limited tool for large frame individuals or groups who have higher bone density and muscle mass. Technically I'm overweight but it's muscle mass.
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BMI Chart Problems
All of the BMI studies cited above were done across large populations.Using that data and applying it to an individual without looking at the person’s overall health is a bad idea.
BMI calculations do not consider age, gender, frame size, muscle mass, or fat distribution. Subcutaneous fat (under the skin) does not appear to strongly predispose to disease. In contrast, visceral fat (in and between the organs) does.
Someone can have a normal BMI but still have a high visceral fat percentage and be at increased risk for diabetes & heart disease. On the other hand, a sumo wrestler with a high BMI but little visceral fat will be metabolically healthy.10
Additionally, as most people know, essentially all NFL running backs, most of whom sport 6-packs and sub-10% body fat, would be classified as obese under this system. Even a recreational athlete with slightly above-average muscle mass could be considered overweight.
Many doctors calculate patients’ BMI and make recommendations simply based on that number, which is a flawed approach for the reasons given above.
In fact, I just saw a patient for physique coaching who was 5’9″ and weighed 185 pounds.
Despite having a 33-inch waist, 11% body fat, and perfect cholesterol and blood sugar, his primary care doctor was concerned. The doctor told him he must lose 25 pounds if he didn’t want to get diabetes and heart disease!..."
So I can tell you everything wrong with how I think you live your life? AWESOME!
What do you do for a living? How much do you make? How much do you save for retirement? What's your highest level of education? What was your grade point average? Do you have any vices or bad habits? Do you treat people well or are you a jerk? Are you dishonest? Do you break any laws? What's your height and weight? What's your mom's height and weight? Can you bench press +300lbs for reps? Can you comfortably run a 5k? Oh...what do you drive? Married? Divorced? Ever cheated? Ever been in jail?
No one is perfect so I KNOW this is just the start but I can't wait to make what's wrong with society right by telling you like it is...
And them are all great excuses not reason why. Could you list more excuses the list is endless.
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It sounds like you made choices that led to being overweight. You didn't mention you diet during this time or if you had health issues that complicated things. For a person with no complicating health problems isn't weight gain or loss a matter of calories burned vs calories consumed? I'm not trying to debate with an MD. You weren't lazy in an intellectual sense and that wasn't implied. It sounds like you succeeded in spite of overwhelming odds against you. Well done.
My daughter is overweight, she has a thyroid problem and because of other health issues/meds it can't be aggressively treated, she walks her dog miles every day does online exercise classes and even on 1500 carefully selected calories can't lose weight. People like her aren't part of the self inflicted overweight epidemic.
Google "why are Americans overweight" and you see repeatedly "Common factors include an overconsumption of food and an insufficient amount of physical exercise".
To PWMDMD: Here and there, lifestyles are mentioned.
I remember seeing anti-domestic violence PSAs during football games. Maybe that helped make some situations better?
We saw anger management films in high school. Maybe that improved things for some?
Sometimes businesses make employees traveling abroad take courses so they don't act like fools. It effects the company's bottom line.
You making fun of my car doesn't address anything. I helped a pair of older ladies change a flat. The lady said, "Halehyulia" and offered me some money. I told her her gratitude was appreciated but changing a tire wasn't "Halehyulia worthy". I also told her to start a piggy bank for a new set of tires. Yes, I dare to say I attempted to educated her.
Hmmm...I guess I just tipped how smart I am.
I remember seeing anti-domestic violence PSAs during football games. Maybe that helped make some situations better?
We saw anger management films in high school. Maybe that improved things for some?
Sometimes businesses make employees traveling abroad take courses so they don't act like fools. It effects the company's bottom line.
You making fun of my car doesn't address anything. I helped a pair of older ladies change a flat. The lady said, "Halehyulia" and offered me some money. I told her her gratitude was appreciated but changing a tire wasn't "Halehyulia worthy". I also told her to start a piggy bank for a new set of tires. Yes, I dare to say I attempted to educated her.
Hmmm...I guess I just tipped how smart I am.
I also had hypothyroidism, clinical depression, and low testosterone. I just came off losing my father and 7 years later my sister. I exercised religiously but my real problem was I overate for comfort. Entirely my fault and entirely my issue but no one knew I was fat more than me. If some guy said something to me in the grocery store or supermarket or restaurant: 1. I was still 6'5" and strong as a bull back then and that would've probably not ended well for that person, and 2. No, not in a million years would that be the "life-changing moment" that caused me to sort out my life. I knew all the risks and what I was doing wrong and I had to get to a place in my life where I could deal with those issues.
Why would anyone want to point out that someone is fat? Have some class, respect and decorum.
I'm not advocating we ignore the obesity problem. I'm saying at the individual level it's no one else's business why someone else is obese and they certainly have no right to walk up to them and confront them as some PSA.
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