a lot of TRUTH for sure!!! as sure as this TRUTHFUL thread will get shut down. we all vary as do our health issues and one thing for sure its mostly YOUR own fault with a few exceptions!! there are a lot of businesses that love our problem as they get rich selling junk food that gets over consumed while OTHERS try to fix things with bandaids + make a LOT of $$$$ + theres the issue as many profit + care less as they get RICH!! we all vary BUT mostly its the VERY addictive sugars 145 names for them hidden in plain sight, not to mention all the foods mostly carbohydrates that quickly turn to sugar, even so called whole grains which are an issue in themselves making it a tough but NOT impossible to FIX our eating habits + much false information dont help!! i pray for the world we live in nightly as people are killing themselves!!!
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@Benji, health issues can strike someone without warning. A small portion of the chronic conditions might be rooted in unhealthy eating habits but it's not a universal rule.
Our food supply seems to be conducive to bad health results. Someone else mentioned this, too, with their experience on a cruise.
It's like when McDonalds left Russia and a local corporation took over, suddenly their burgers started going moldy just like any normal food, unlike what happens to McDonalds food that can last for decades without going bad.
Our food supply seems to be conducive to bad health results. Someone else mentioned this, too, with their experience on a cruise.
It's like when McDonalds left Russia and a local corporation took over, suddenly their burgers started going moldy just like any normal food, unlike what happens to McDonalds food that can last for decades without going bad.
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There's also a big problem with pet obesity, again unless there's a medical issue totally controllable by the owner. Go figure.
How about at my heaviest I still had stellar labs. Total cholesterol was low. HDL was high. LDL was low. BP was normal. Liver enzymes normal. Like I said I still exercised like a madman and at 340lbs ran several 5k and had absolutely no physical limitations.
My business partner at the time was normal weight, ate well, exercised, and had high blood pressure, and high cholesterol unresponsive to statins, and chronically elevated LFTs consistent with fatty liver disease.
There's even a group of people called the "metabolically normal obese" - these are people with elevated BMI above 30 and no evidence of metabolic syndrome.
Then there is a group called "metabolically-obese normal-weight" - these are normal-weight people with signs of metabolic syndrome.
It calls into question whether or not metabolic syndrome is itself a result of obesity or is obesity and metabolic syndrome two separate entities often found together but the result of some other problem that can sometimes cause metabolic syndrome with obesity and sometimes cause metabolic syndrome without obesity.
With the exception of medical insurance, they absolutely do! Life insurance and disability for obese people are significantly more. Why is medical insurance different? Well, I guess because for every time someone has a disease associated with their bad choices, there are people who have diseases in spite of their good choices. I know a guy who was 35-years-old with coronary artery disease in spite of living a VERY healthy lifestyle and I know a morbidly obese man in his 80's who has used far fewer healthcare dollars than the 35-year-old. The outward appearance and diagnosis doesn't always match healthcare dollar utilization. A more fair way would be to simply punish those who use more health care dollars regardless of their diagnoses or labs or body measurements.
OMG you are so right, wife and I discuss this all the time we would never let our dog get obese.
You keep going back to "ugly". That's a lousy analogy, because there is no set standard for ugly. It's open to interpretation and personal opinion. Some people think Paris Hilton is ugly, and Sandra Bernhardt is gorgeous. I don't, but they do.
Their opinion is of no more value one way or the other, than mine or yours. Some girl that pays $350.00 to have her hair colored orange and purple, isn't doing it because she thinks it will make her ugly. But you might think so even though she doesn't. As they say, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.
BUT FAT IS FAT. There is a set of standards for obesity in this country. It was drawn up by doctors and health officials in conjunction with the CDC. Here it is. If you fall into its range you are obese..... Or FAT. That's not my opinion. It's a government standard. If you don't agree with it whine to them.... Not me.
https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/basics/...r BMI is less,falls within the obesity range.
I think if someone is eating a reasonable amount of healthy food, and gets some exercise, probably their actual weight or BMI isn't really an important stat.
I have found that fast food places have gotten quite a bit more expensive and now I feel really dumb going there. On a trip I'll still pop in to get the boys a pair of whoppers for $9, but if that ends we are done with fast burger joints... I'm not spending $25+ for 2 combos of khrap now....
An apple or two, some cheese or peperoni for some proteins and fats, maybe some nuts, and I can drive all day.
I have found that fast food places have gotten quite a bit more expensive and now I feel really dumb going there. On a trip I'll still pop in to get the boys a pair of whoppers for $9, but if that ends we are done with fast burger joints... I'm not spending $25+ for 2 combos of khrap now....
An apple or two, some cheese or peperoni for some proteins and fats, maybe some nuts, and I can drive all day.
BMI is a TERRIBLE definition of fat. Every single lean muscular person is overweight or obese by BMI standards. Ok...so you say ugly is a terrible analogy because there is no standard definition? Ok, um...if someone has a BMI of 29.9 vs 30.1 then what would you call each of them? Because according to your standard one is normal weight and one is overweight. Chris Hemsworth as Thor - you guessed it...overweight!
....and just because I'm not agreeing with you it doesn't make it whining....know the difference.
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Just because you know these people they are statistically insignificant in the nation of 350 million people.
Please, let’s not deny the facts for the vast majority of the population.
It’s fact not fiction
Just like people pay extra for all kinds of premiums in insurance based on their behavior, health insurance should be no different.
That in itself would be a big incentive to the enhancement of many peoples lives as they work to get themselves healthy again.
Again, that's your opinion. But most doctors will jump on you for it. It's not because they're out to hurt your feelings.
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It's not quite that simple. I'd put out there additives, pesticides, and some genetic modification(s) to what should be wholesome food is an issue on top of the fast food garbage far too many suck down on a regular basis. I shouldn't have to spend $6 for a loaf of that guy's bread to ensure I'm not getting modified grain.
Add to this the clearly biased and erroneous US Gov't food pyramid. That pyramid is by lobbyists for lobbyist interests. Public and private school fail to teach our kids the #1 killer -- SUGAR and where it comes from and how your body stores it.
Lol...I haven't spoken to a physician in 5 or 10 years who doesn't know the inherent limitations of BMI and there are alternative measures of adiposity.
Airline tickets are another. As well they should be. It takes fuel to move dead weight. You pay Fed Ex more to move a heavy package. You should have to do the same if a fat man walks up to the gate at United.
https://www.smartertravel.com/airli...lines will offer a,the price as other flyers.
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Unfortunately, BMI does not take into consideration muscle mass. To me, and it's just me BMI is a cop-out so to speak as far as a metric goes. I like to monitor fat %, muscle mass, and cardio index as a barometer. We should have a better way than BMI IMO.
Let's put it this way. If you're fat enough to be called fat, it's because you probably are. I'll leave everyone else to fight over what's, "fair".
Really? A 30 year old someone works out and eats well and is 190lbs at 5'10" with a reasonable fat percentage, and the doc is going to say what? "You are overweight and should eat less and workout less"? I really doubt it even though they are "overweight" and not that far from "obese" on the BMI chart.
BMI is a decent guide for the average bone structure person who doesn't workout much and going for a walk is exercise to them. Sure then you should probably be 170lbs or less and eating a surprisingly small amount of food to stay that weight.
I would say as you age, and lose muscle mass, in your late 70's and up, probably your BMI starts to correlate more directly with how healthy you are. I don't see many high BMI people in their 90's still being active mentally and physically, as being lighter and eating less is easier on the elderly body, but the elderly body is much different in composition then middle aged and younger.
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