Norton antivirus is a great product
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I was interested in what you said also 2010_FX4 concerning Magic Lantern. I did hear about that but I can't remember much about it. But supposedly the American AV companies would not detect this software that the FBI was using.
I cam across information quite a while back that was interesting. OpenBSD is supposed to be the most secure server operating system. I heard a story that the FBI several years ago actually had a backdoor so they could get in if OpenBSD was being used. I don't know if that is accurate or not but that was the story.
Actually the police have a lot of special software. I think a lot of that software comes from some company in Utah.
And if the NSA wanted to get into somebody's computer they could probably get in easily enough if they wanted to. Heck, they could have a van parked outside and probably record the keystrokes on the keyboard.
I cam across information quite a while back that was interesting. OpenBSD is supposed to be the most secure server operating system. I heard a story that the FBI several years ago actually had a backdoor so they could get in if OpenBSD was being used. I don't know if that is accurate or not but that was the story.
Actually the police have a lot of special software. I think a lot of that software comes from some company in Utah.
And if the NSA wanted to get into somebody's computer they could probably get in easily enough if they wanted to. Heck, they could have a van parked outside and probably record the keystrokes on the keyboard.
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April or May issue of Consumer Reports had Avast as number 1 for free antivirus programs followed by Avira. I was using MSE on mine and switched over to the free Avast. MSE was constantly wanting you to run full scans to keep up on your definitions as where the Avast runs automatic updates daily. I had all sorts of issues running Sandboxie with the MSE like others suggested. MSE automatically disables windows defender when you use the MSE program. Knock on wood but soo far soo good with Avast. I don't go into porn or shady sites or open crazy/bull [censored] e-mails neither.
I did not like Norton and AVG gets false positives. Avast has been performing beautifully for me and has a very user friendly interface.
Used Norton Internet Security for several years. Then I got very bad redirect trojan, which NIS didn't catch or remove. Called Norton for help and they basically said, tough luck we can't help you.
Called Microsoft and they took control of my computer, cleaned it, took a couple hours and never charged a thing. Now they charge for the same service, but still they went above and beyond, Norton that I had paid for did nada.
Then they put me onto free Microsoft Security Essentials, never looked back.
Called Microsoft and they took control of my computer, cleaned it, took a couple hours and never charged a thing. Now they charge for the same service, but still they went above and beyond, Norton that I had paid for did nada.
Then they put me onto free Microsoft Security Essentials, never looked back.
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Originally Posted By: thorromig
MSE was constantly wanting you to run full scans to keep up on your definitions as where the Avast runs automatic updates daily.
I run Windows and MSE does NOT require constant full scans to keep up with definitions. MSE also runs Automatic Updates by itself, just like Avast.
I may give basic Norton Anti-Virus a purchase next year, if they have such a thing.
MSE was constantly wanting you to run full scans to keep up on your definitions as where the Avast runs automatic updates daily.
I run Windows and MSE does NOT require constant full scans to keep up with definitions. MSE also runs Automatic Updates by itself, just like Avast.
I may give basic Norton Anti-Virus a purchase next year, if they have such a thing.
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Hmmm.
I have Avast running and the UI and Ser process that run with it only use between 1800-5000k total. That isn't much at all.
How a program runs depends on a lot of factors including correct installation and uninstall plus the hardware its running on. Avast had a hiccup about two years ago with an update that caused multiple services and higher memory to be used. The fix was a complete uninstall and then a full install that corrected the problem.
Avast is one of the most effective programs and it is free. It is lightweight and wil update certain program drivers in order to stop the issues that arise from out of date programs. An example being flash, adobe even browsers. This is particularly good because many people are just users and not programmers/techs and just want the PC to work.
In my experience with repairs and recovery, including forensic recovery stemming from brutal various and unauthorized access, the majority of computers had "other" security programs on them. Some had deep rooted viruses that sat on the hard drive missed for a few years with one and that was with a deep scan enabled and updates. Not gonna say what AV program they had. It was up to date though...
I actually like to show people how good Avast is by pulling the hard drive and scanning it separately with Avast after they have scanned and found nothing with "other" programs. It gets a few dropped jaws. Now mind you this is done to drive home a visual point and isn't always the best way to remove a virus.
Anyways the point regardless of what people like is to make sure you have some type of security enabled .
I have Avast running and the UI and Ser process that run with it only use between 1800-5000k total. That isn't much at all.
How a program runs depends on a lot of factors including correct installation and uninstall plus the hardware its running on. Avast had a hiccup about two years ago with an update that caused multiple services and higher memory to be used. The fix was a complete uninstall and then a full install that corrected the problem.
Avast is one of the most effective programs and it is free. It is lightweight and wil update certain program drivers in order to stop the issues that arise from out of date programs. An example being flash, adobe even browsers. This is particularly good because many people are just users and not programmers/techs and just want the PC to work.
In my experience with repairs and recovery, including forensic recovery stemming from brutal various and unauthorized access, the majority of computers had "other" security programs on them. Some had deep rooted viruses that sat on the hard drive missed for a few years with one and that was with a deep scan enabled and updates. Not gonna say what AV program they had. It was up to date though...
I actually like to show people how good Avast is by pulling the hard drive and scanning it separately with Avast after they have scanned and found nothing with "other" programs. It gets a few dropped jaws. Now mind you this is done to drive home a visual point and isn't always the best way to remove a virus.
Anyways the point regardless of what people like is to make sure you have some type of security enabled .
I cleaned reinstalled Avast twice, including registry cleaning, and it still was slow. The boot times were ridiculous. 3 minutes at least, even with the bootscan turned off. maybe it conflicted with how my system is set up or with some other software, but I'm not going to waste my time with it anymore now that Norton is running so fast and smooth. I'm sure sometime in the future Norton will change something or it will start conflicting with my machine and I'll move to something else.
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Instead of buying new PCs, they removed Symantec and replaced it with some unknown brand light AV. The PCs are usable again (I know, they are that cheap).
I just checked and they used Trend Micro.
Instead of buying new PCs, they removed Symantec and replaced it with some unknown brand light AV. The PCs are usable again (I know, they are that cheap).
I just checked and they used Trend Micro.
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Originally Posted By: Mystic
Kaspersky is usually rated near the top also although I had a few problems with it not being compatible with the software for my graphics card.
Not to hijack the thread, but what graphics card software were/are you using and what led you to Kaspersky being the root cause? Just curious...
Kaspersky is usually rated near the top also although I had a few problems with it not being compatible with the software for my graphics card.
Not to hijack the thread, but what graphics card software were/are you using and what led you to Kaspersky being the root cause? Just curious...
My computer is a few years old. I have an ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series graphics card. This problem occurred quite a while back. I was using the Kaspersky Internet Security and I was doing a scan. The computer crashed. What I found out was that apparently the Kaspersky AV was conflicting with the software for the Radeon card. I think I was able to solve the problem just by updating the software for the graphics card.
This is the only time I can remember when I ever had problems with hardware while using Kaspersky.
Overall I have been very happy with Kaspersky. There have been only a few things I didn't like. I do believe that maybe it is time for Kaspersky to completely rewrite their software. And I would like to see a few improvements especially with the firewall.
Bitdefender is usually rated higher nowadays compared to Kaspersky, but I just don't like Bitdefender in some ways. Mainly because it seems kind of buggy.
Kaspersky has always impressed me and I have often wondered why an American antivirus program could not be as good.
This is the only time I can remember when I ever had problems with hardware while using Kaspersky.
Overall I have been very happy with Kaspersky. There have been only a few things I didn't like. I do believe that maybe it is time for Kaspersky to completely rewrite their software. And I would like to see a few improvements especially with the firewall.
Bitdefender is usually rated higher nowadays compared to Kaspersky, but I just don't like Bitdefender in some ways. Mainly because it seems kind of buggy.
Kaspersky has always impressed me and I have often wondered why an American antivirus program could not be as good.
I used MSE, it worked OK for a while until I picked up some kind of WIN32 adware bug, two of them I believe. MSE never found a thing, I discovered it when just out of curiosity I did a free trial of ESET Internet Security. ESET found one bug on its initial scan. I wanted to buy ESET but could not find a good price on it so I did a lot of research and installed Avast 8 Free. Avast found the other adware bug on its initial scan. A-V Comparatives rates Avast Free version 8 just as good as some of the more expensive paid AV programs at detection and it has great protection. Using Avast, Secunia, MBAM Pro and a few other add-ons along with common sense online has gone a long way towards keeping my system clean. MBAM Pro is the only program I would pay for ($25.00 for a lifetime license). I have Avast and MBAM excluded from each other and they work fine together.
I should also add that Avast has super customer support. You can email them a help request and they will get back to you very quickly. I received expert, competent and nearly immediate help in the Avast Forum when dealing with the WIN bug. I have tried getting support in the MS forum previously and the responses were nowhere near as good as what I received from Avast.
I should also add that Avast has super customer support. You can email them a help request and they will get back to you very quickly. I received expert, competent and nearly immediate help in the Avast Forum when dealing with the WIN bug. I have tried getting support in the MS forum previously and the responses were nowhere near as good as what I received from Avast.
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Originally Posted By: Mystic
This is the only time I can remember when I ever had problems with hardware while using Kaspersky.
Overall I have been very happy with Kaspersky. There have been only a few things I didn't like. I do believe that maybe it is time for Kaspersky to completely rewrite their software. And I would like to see a few improvements especially with the firewall.
Thanks for the feedback on the Radeon and Kaspersky. I am using Pure 3.0 and have had zero issues with it running on 6 machines at home (4 desktops and 2 laptops). It is nearly an enterprise class piece of software in its ability to be managed from a single machine (which makes my life easier as the Admin) as well as the parental control features. Bitdefender has seemed "on again off again" through the years, (I suppose they all are to some degree), but as compared to the others, does Bitdefender garner that much market share?
This is the only time I can remember when I ever had problems with hardware while using Kaspersky.
Overall I have been very happy with Kaspersky. There have been only a few things I didn't like. I do believe that maybe it is time for Kaspersky to completely rewrite their software. And I would like to see a few improvements especially with the firewall.
Thanks for the feedback on the Radeon and Kaspersky. I am using Pure 3.0 and have had zero issues with it running on 6 machines at home (4 desktops and 2 laptops). It is nearly an enterprise class piece of software in its ability to be managed from a single machine (which makes my life easier as the Admin) as well as the parental control features. Bitdefender has seemed "on again off again" through the years, (I suppose they all are to some degree), but as compared to the others, does Bitdefender garner that much market share?
I have mixed feelings about Bitdefender. According to AVTest and AVComparatives Bitdefender seems like the best. And they seem to have wonderful technology. I noticed recently that even Dennis Technology Labs has Bitdefender rated number one with Kaspersky second. But I don't think their market share is all that great and personally I have always had problems with Bitdefender because it seems buggy. I think they have already come out with the 2014 version of Bitdefender.
I still like Kaspersky a lot. Although I think they do need to upgrade Kaspersky to stay competitive with Bitdefender. But Kaspersky without a doubt is very good. And I have not had many problems with Kaspersky over the years.
According to everything I have been able to find out these two antivirus programs are among the very best available.
I still like Kaspersky a lot. Although I think they do need to upgrade Kaspersky to stay competitive with Bitdefender. But Kaspersky without a doubt is very good. And I have not had many problems with Kaspersky over the years.
According to everything I have been able to find out these two antivirus programs are among the very best available.
@Triple Seven, in not trying to argue or rebuttle with you. For my own personal computer with MSE. It wanted me to run a full scan at least 2 times a week. If I did not it would constantly remind me that my system security was in jeopardy/critical. It really became bothersome. Yes MSE did/does daily updates also when I used it. I just find Avast soo far, easier/simple which is nice too me.
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Originally Posted By: thorromig
@Triple Seven, in not trying to argue or rebuttle with you. For my own personal computer with MSE. It wanted me to run a full scan at least 2 times a week. If I did not it would constantly remind me that my system security was in jeopardy/critical. It really became bothersome. Yes MSE did/does daily updates also when I used it. I just find Avast soo far, easier/simple which is nice too me.
Are you using CCleaner by chance?
@Triple Seven, in not trying to argue or rebuttle with you. For my own personal computer with MSE. It wanted me to run a full scan at least 2 times a week. If I did not it would constantly remind me that my system security was in jeopardy/critical. It really became bothersome. Yes MSE did/does daily updates also when I used it. I just find Avast soo far, easier/simple which is nice too me.
Are you using CCleaner by chance?
Originally Posted By: Mystic
My computer is a few years old. I have an ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series graphics card. This problem occurred quite a while back. I was using the Kaspersky Internet Security and I was doing a scan. The computer crashed. What I found out was that apparently the Kaspersky AV was conflicting with the software for the Radeon card. I think I was able to solve the problem just by updating the software for the graphics card.
From someone that do drivers for a living, this is definitely ATI's fault.
My computer is a few years old. I have an ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series graphics card. This problem occurred quite a while back. I was using the Kaspersky Internet Security and I was doing a scan. The computer crashed. What I found out was that apparently the Kaspersky AV was conflicting with the software for the Radeon card. I think I was able to solve the problem just by updating the software for the graphics card.
From someone that do drivers for a living, this is definitely ATI's fault.
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It would not be bothersome, had you gone into Settings and unchecked the scheduled scan. Run the scans manually, whenever's best for you.
I scan my system once a week, while I walk the dog or go grocery shopping.
I scan my system once a week, while I walk the dog or go grocery shopping.
Well, I have never had a hardware problem with Kaspersky before (other than maybe Kaspersky at times slowing the computer down somewhat) so I certainly would believe it was the fault of the software for the graphics card.
I pretty much have concluded that Bitdefender, Kaspersky, and Norton are the three top antivirus programs.
I think Norton needs some help however with maybe the free version of MBAM and a person can download the Kaspersky Rescue CD for free. I like how Norton runs but I don't like that files are left behind when you uninstall it. And I simply don't know how effective Norton is. Some reviews have it as being very effective and other reviews not so much. I have little doubt about Bitdefender and Kaspersky being good, but I am leery about Bitdefender because it has been buggy for me.
I pretty much have concluded that Bitdefender, Kaspersky, and Norton are the three top antivirus programs.
I think Norton needs some help however with maybe the free version of MBAM and a person can download the Kaspersky Rescue CD for free. I like how Norton runs but I don't like that files are left behind when you uninstall it. And I simply don't know how effective Norton is. Some reviews have it as being very effective and other reviews not so much. I have little doubt about Bitdefender and Kaspersky being good, but I am leery about Bitdefender because it has been buggy for me.
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