ls1mike
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You used every half tons top engine except for GM. 6.2 420HP and 460 FT/lbs of torque. Pretty easy to come by.
No Tundra love
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The Tundra uses a fully boxed frame in the front, a reinforced C channel under the cab, and a C channel under the bed. I am certainly not an engineer but I'm sure it was designed this way from the start. Having said that, it is time for Toyota to redesign and update the whole vehicle and catch up with the competition.
When I bought my 2011 Tundra new in 2012, the 2011 model Tundra was an IIHS Top Safety Pick. I realize testing criteria is different now but I do not feel unsafe riding in mine.
If I were in the market for a new 1/2 ton today, it would likely be the Silverado with the 6.2L. Only negative I see is the requirement for premium gas....unless that has changed.
ls1mike
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GM says premium is recommended but you can run it on 87, you choice. I run premium in everything anyway.
None of the engines I listed were top engines. They were mainstream. The 5.3 is out there in MUCH larger numbers than the 6.2 and even then my point was the tundra does not lack power at all just because GM has a more powerful option.
I’m not a Toyota guy at all but there is no denying it has a great powertrain.
Also I’m pretty sure that 6.2 needs 4100 revs for peak torque which is 500 rpm more than the tundra, and that GM will probably have a few more problems than the Tundra over its lifetime. That being said I’d still by GM 6.2 before a tundra.
First of all, congrats to the OP on the purchase!
Yes, Toyota is definitely reluctant to change anything. They pretty much build new models for people who own the "older version." I did the same thing with my Tacoma; had a 2nd gen and traded up to a 3rd gen. Pretty much a brand new 15 year old truck. If you look underneath both you couldn't hardly tell a difference! Not complaining though...
Yes, Toyota is definitely reluctant to change anything. They pretty much build new models for people who own the "older version." I did the same thing with my Tacoma; had a 2nd gen and traded up to a 3rd gen. Pretty much a brand new 15 year old truck. If you look underneath both you couldn't hardly tell a difference! Not complaining though...
This is the problem for me. I see the price tag and then the styling and feel sick.
I'm convinced the brands are trying to see who can sell the ugliest truck.This is the problem for me. I see the price tag and then the styling and feel sick.
Yea-but would you buy one for 30K?
No. I could buy them brand new now for what they are asking, I'm just cheap and don't like the styling. I prefer to spend my money on vehicles I like. If I needed a pickup, I'd probably buy an older one-owner truck from California in good shape. I'm different than most people though. I work in tech, so older mechanical vehicles are a hobby.
I like Toyotas....got several in the family. But I'm not opposed to other brands. That said....if I were in the market for a full size rig I would still probably get the Tundra just for the fact that it's been around for as long as it has. It would be more than capable of satisfying my needs for a truck.
The latest and greatest means nothing to me. Leading edge tech is often known as "bleeding edge" in the business for a reason. Give me something that's been around for awhile. And as for gas mileage? If you're looking at a full sized truck and worried about that....maybe a full sized is not your best bet. My neighbor's have a F150 2.7 EB. He says the gas mileage has never been close to what was advertised.
The latest and greatest means nothing to me. Leading edge tech is often known as "bleeding edge" in the business for a reason. Give me something that's been around for awhile. And as for gas mileage? If you're looking at a full sized truck and worried about that....maybe a full sized is not your best bet. My neighbor's have a F150 2.7 EB. He says the gas mileage has never been close to what was advertised.
Well.....I think the RAM is not a bad looking truck. Being an owner of a 2018 SIlverado-I think the 2019's and up (Silverados) are an abomination in the looks department.
The Rams look the best of the new ones, likely because of their conservative styling changes. If I had to pick a new truck that would likely be my choice, and agreed on the 2018 and older Silverados having better styling. For me, vehicles and tinkering with them right now is one of my hobbies. I'm sure once I'm old enough where it becomes more difficult to physically do I'll result to paying someone or just going out and buying new. By then everything will probably be electric haha. I completely understand why people buy Tundras and new trucks, since many don't have the time or means to tinker with stuff.
Please elaborate on your cryptic post.....................
I love Toyota’s and miss mine after owning an F-150. If I could justify buying a new truck it would be a Toyota.
I didn't say it lacked power, but as you just posted, it is behind a majority of other manufacturer's V8s and with worse MPG. Not only is it behind in power and fuel economy, the V8 is their only offering, while other brands give you more choices. On top of all of that, it's sold at a premium price. It's really no shocker as to why consumers tend to purchase other full sized trucks.
I love my 2020 Tundra Platinum. The only complaint was the stereo so I replaced the HU with a Kenwood DMX1037S, replaced all the speakers, 10" sub and Infinty Kappa 5 amp and it rocks now. I also added Bilstein 6112's at +1.9" upfront and 5160's in the rear as well as a new skidplate with an oil filter access.
I don't tow and the most I've hauled in the bed is luggage so it's a glam truck but I love the simplicity of the truck. I love that I could do the install of the stereo myself. I plan to keep this truck for a long time.
I don't tow and the most I've hauled in the bed is luggage so it's a glam truck but I love the simplicity of the truck. I love that I could do the install of the stereo myself. I plan to keep this truck for a long time.
Toyota. The beige of the auto world. I have a good friend that had a 2018 Tundra he bought new. SR5/TRD package. He gets a new truck every few years through his company and is a big-time Toyota fan (wife has a new 4runner and they've had several Sequoias before that). He had a 2016 F-150 previously and loved it...he just never could come around the Tundra and traded it yesterday on a 2021 F-150 Lariat. I mean, a $45K vehicle without Apple Car Play? Toyota hangs there hat on the reliability but there is more to vehicle ownership that being able to drive it forever....I actually want to enjoy my vehicles; he has had at least 3 F-150s that all went north of 200K with little drama. The Tundra just rode crappy and had v. little w/r to features vs. an F-150 at the same price. End.
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