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The open C channel frame in the rear is by design. The C-channel allows some controlled torsion in the frame which serves to isolate the passenger compartment from NVH associated with a load behind the cab. The domestics have to deal with it in other ways.
 
Toyota. The beige of the auto world. I have a good friend that had a 2018 Tundra he bought new. SR5/TRD package. He gets a new truck every few years through his company and is a big-time Toyota fan (wife has a new 4runner and they've had several Sequoias before that). He had a 2016 F-150 previously and loved it...he just never could come around the Tundra and traded it yesterday on a 2021 F-150 Lariat. I mean, a $45K vehicle without Apple Car Play? Toyota hangs there hat on the reliability but there is more to vehicle ownership that being able to drive it forever....I actually want to enjoy my vehicles; he has had at least 3 F-150s that all went north of 200K with little drama. The Tundra just rode crappy and had v. little w/r to features vs. an F-150 at the same price. End.
It looks like the new redesigned Tundra is going to have coil springs in the rear-should improve the ride a lot. But I agree-the new Tundra needs to be BETTER than the competition or sales will languish at the present levels (about 10,000 units a month)
 
Watch the crash tests. Ranked one of the worse for safety
With so many years in the works … new models are bound to rank high in every category desired. They should be able to pick up an initial sale surge … but the price will matter in order to sustain it …
 
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It looks like the new redesigned Tundra is going to have coil springs in the rear-should improve the ride a lot. But I agree-the new Tundra needs to be BETTER than the competition or sales will languish at the present levels (about 10,000 units a month)

If true about the coil springs it should help what the average buyer wants these days. Having said that, I like the firm, stiff ride my Tundra has....when loaded down and towing it still handles well.

What I am interested in is the engine, transmission and drivetrain components. Rumor has it there will be an option for a twin turbo V6 with 450-500 HP and an 8 or 10 speed transmission. Personally, I'd like to see an option for a twin turbo 5.7L V8 as that could be a lot of fun.
 
Buy what you like, that is what matters. You got a good service life out the the GM so wondering why you wouldn't buy another one. My choice would have been the RAM Limited but that's just my opinion having one now that's been the best truck I've ever owned.
 
If true about the coil springs it should help what the average buyer wants these days. Having said that, I like the firm, stiff ride my Tundra has....when loaded down and towing it still handles well.

What I am interested in is the engine, transmission and drivetrain components. Rumor has it there will be an option for a twin turbo V6 with 450-500 HP and an 8 or 10 speed transmission. Personally, I'd like to see an option for a twin turbo 5.7L V8 as that could be a lot of fun.
It would be fun but probably wont happen. Of course if one's pocketbook is thick the aftermarket could make it happen.
 
With so many years in the works … new models are bound to rank high in every category desired. They should be able to pick up an initial sale surge … but the price will matter in order to sustain it …

I agree. I don't believe the Texas production facility is running anywhere near capacity where they put together Toyota trucks.
 
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I like mine but it has not been as reliable as I'd care for. It is about as simple as I wanted, no LCD's and whatnot, didn't want that at the time.
 
It would be fun but probably wont happen. Of course if one's pocketbook is thick the aftermarket could make it happen.

I'm almost positive it will not happen but one can wish! When I bough mine, Toyota still offered the TRD supercharger and your factory warranty remained intact. It seems like the catch was you had to pay for the S/C and installation up front as they would not finance it. I came really close to dipping into the savings account and springing for the supercharger.
 
I'm almost positive it will not happen but one can wish! When I bough mine, Toyota still offered the TRD supercharger and your factory warranty remained intact. It seems like the catch was you had to pay for the S/C and installation up front as they would not finance it. I came really close to dipping into the savings account and springing for the supercharger.
I won't be buying a vehicle anytime soon, did the math and a new truck costs more than my mileage income. My 05 Silverado brings me ~$500-800 a month in mileage income....

For fun though I went on Ford's website and built a new truck to see how much it would be. It was very frustrating, trying to pick a $200 option I wanted and the next page tells me I need to add a $2500 feature package to get it, or I need to upgrade to the EcoBoost, etc.

Then I went to Toyota's website and built a truck and they let me pick every single option I wanted.

To keep a truck below $50,000 Canadian I had to to go with a 2020 and build something so basic it made my 2005 Silverado LS look like a luxury vehicle.

Even cruise control required a $2200 option.

Edit:sorry not sure why I quoted your post.
 
Buy what you like, that is what matters. You got a good service life out the the GM so wondering why you wouldn't buy another one. My choice would have been the RAM Limited but that's just my opinion having one now that's been the best truck I've ever owned.
Because the new GM trucks are utter garbage, though they look amazing! I'm a bit of a GM fanboy myself and went test driving the Big 3 to retire my Sierra... but the loaded TrailBoss was horribly underwhelming. The power, the transmission.. Horrible. Then from reading on the GM forums I see these new trucks since 2014 have been full of lemons and electronic issues.. Electronic braking issues, electronic steering jerking people into curbs, a fancy new AFM, transmission issues, rear window leaks, paint issues. On and on and on. Every truck brand has their problems but I have been on the forums for my GMT900 series truck and the only issues these had were excessive oil consumption due to AFM garbage!!!
I'm very excited to see what Toyota reveals with their new Tundra. Especially since F150's have no V8 option and RAM's V8 went the way of AFM and surprise the rock solid engine now is plagued with issues. The modern motor industry is a huge let down.... =/

To keep a truck below $50,000 Canadian I had to to go with a 2020 and build something so basic it made my 2005 Silverado LS look like a luxury vehicle.

Even cruise control required a $2200 option.
Yup! The truck industry just stinks right now. I also chose to stick with my reliable 2009 Sierra. I just need to get rid of this AFM and she will be rock solid for years to come.
 
Because the new GM trucks are utter garbage, though they look amazing! I'm a bit of a GM fanboy myself and went test driving the Big 3 to retire my Sierra... but the loaded TrailBoss was horribly underwhelming. The power, the transmission.. Horrible. Then from reading on the GM forums I see these new trucks since 2014 have been full of lemons and electronic issues.. Electronic braking issues, electronic steering jerking people into curbs, a fancy new AFM, transmission issues, rear window leaks, paint issues. On and on and on. Every truck brand has their problems but I have been on the forums for my GMT900 series truck and the only issues these had were excessive oil consumption due to AFM garbage!!!
I'm very excited to see what Toyota reveals with their new Tundra. Especially since F150's have no V8 option and RAM's V8 went the way of AFM and surprise the rock solid engine now is plagued with issues. The modern motor industry is a huge let down.... =/


Yup! The truck industry just stinks right now. I also chose to stick with my reliable 2009 Sierra. I just need to get rid of this AFM and she will be rock solid for years to come.

The F-150 still offers the 5.0 V8 as an option, for now anyways....
 
Because the new GM trucks are utter garbage, though they look amazing! I'm a bit of a GM fanboy myself and went test driving the Big 3 to retire my Sierra... but the loaded TrailBoss was horribly underwhelming. The power, the transmission.. Horrible. Then from reading on the GM forums I see these new trucks since 2014 have been full of lemons and electronic issues.. Electronic braking issues, electronic steering jerking people into curbs, a fancy new AFM, transmission issues, rear window leaks, paint issues. On and on and on. Every truck brand has their problems but I have been on the forums for my GMT900 series truck and the only issues these had were excessive oil consumption due to AFM garbage!!!
I'm very excited to see what Toyota reveals with their new Tundra. Especially since F150's have no V8 option and RAM's V8 went the way of AFM and surprise the rock solid engine now is plagued with issues. The modern motor industry is a huge let down.... =/


Yup! The truck industry just stinks right now. I also chose to stick with my reliable 2009 Sierra. I just need to get rid of this AFM and she will be rock solid for years to come.
Luckily I have no AFM in my 05. The only thing on the engine that had to be replaced in 16 years and 202k miles was 1 water pump and a couple sets of spark plugs. Also the original serpentine belts which lasted 15 years if we're getting into maintenance stuff.

The rest of the truck has had 2 wheel bearings, 3 ball joints and a driver's window regulator (today). Fuel pump sending unit also rusted out at 160k. That's it as far as I am remember.
 
I hope one day all these things happen to my GM vehicles … I feel so left out on the Internet and have no friends at the service department …

Oh wait … is this a Tundra thread?
 
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