No More Haynes Manuals

[Passport1]

I always liked these manuals. They had great instructions and car specific photos to assist in disassembly and reassembly of most everything on the vehicle. I still have a few old ones. Mostly for British motorcycles and cars. Maybe the reason they will no longer publish them is because cars are so complex today that the average owner would never attempt to fix one.

Sign of the times?

https://www.powernationtv.com/post/...r+Manuals+Will+No+Longer+Produce+New+Editions

 

[ctechbob]

I'd imagine that it is getting prohibitively expensive to produce them. As many specialized tools, scanners, scopes, and meters that is necessary to fix a lot of cars these days and factory service manuals passing a thousand pages in some cases...diminishing returns comes to mind.

Plus, like I mentioned in another thread, the DIY'er or even person who remotely cares how his/her car works is a dying breed methinks.

 

[HangFire]

Bit of a click-bait title there... new manuals will be digital only.

 

[JeffKeryk]

Bummer.
I probably have 10 or more out in the garage. The only thing I like better is my Motor Manuals.
Might be time to hang up the wrenches...

 

[Leo99]

What cars are too complex for a DIYer to fix? I think the amount of youtube videos and internet knowledge makes it easier to fix cars now than years ago.

 

[Kestas]

I imagine many of the issues today are related to electricals. Could they at least publish that?

 

[HangFire]

I imagine many of the issues today are related to electricals. Could they at least publish that?

They're still PUBLISHING. They're just not PRINTING anything new.

 

[JeffKeryk]

They're still PUBLISHING. They're just not PRINTING anything new.

I hate computers.

 

[AutoMechanic]

I cannot work or read something off of a computer screen I need the paper version. I read Haynes manuals from front to back I love them I have one for each vehicle we own.

 

[TheLawnRanger]

I'm waiting for my Encore to be old enough for a Haynes manual to be produced however it may be. The manuals aren't perfect but they are helpful.

 

[Wolf359]

I always liked these manuals. They had great instructions and car specific photos to assist in disassembly and reassembly of most everything on the vehicle. I still have a few old ones. Mostly for British motorcycles and cars. Maybe the reason they will no longer publish them is because cars are so complex today that the average owner would never attempt to fix one.

Sign of the times?

Naw, I like to use the actual factory repair manuals. You can get a knock off copy of the Mercedes WIS online for about $8.50 on eBay. It's the same full repair manual that the dealer uses. On their official site, it's $64 a day to access their full system. Covers their entire line. Includes EPC which is their parts catalog.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2020-Merce...Service-Repair-Workshop-Download/123730293730

Some of those old Haynes/Chilton's manuals were a little bit too simplified. Like how to remove the engine in 10 steps, installation is the reversal of removal.

 

[JC1]

Yeah most of the Haynes manuals I used were a joke. Thank goodness for YouTube and you guys!

 

[Gimpy1]

I hate computers.

The irony of responding like you did on an internet forum.

 

[JeffKeryk]

The irony of responding like you did on an internet forum.

Yep. And I am a computer programmer specializing on predictive analytics and forecasting.

 

[Nick1994]

I hate computers.

I thought you worked IT?

Edit: Just saw your above reply

 

[JeffKeryk]

I thought you worked IT?

Edit: Just saw your above reply

We have perhaps 50 notebooks in our house, tablets and a server with 50+ cores with a prototype Intel processor my wife built.
Windows, Macs and Chromebooks.
I program on a high end Dell, do databse stuff on a server and Azure, and take my Chromie everywhere I go.
My wife is in charge of world wide computer operations at a $15B Silicon Valley company with more than 10,000 employees.
She carries 3 cell phones.
I taught myself R a couple of years ago outta curiosity; I am taking a look at React now...
All good.

 

[CKN]

I cannot work or read something off of a computer screen I need the paper version. I read Haynes manuals from front to back I love them I have one for each vehicle we own.

Then you just print the pages you need-problem solved.

 

[Trav]

What cars are too complex for a DIYer to fix? I think the amount of youtube videos and internet knowledge makes it easier to fix cars now than years ago.

Many of them, videos and internet are not going to provide the specialized tools and equipment required to work on most cars today.
How are you removing and installing a module with the correct VIN that controls everything from the blinkers to the door locks (and that is only one of 13 in one car I am thinking of) from a video.

This is one reason so many guys are specializing in one or two makes or certain areas like transmissions, suspension, etc.

 

[Kokopelli34179]

They aren't what they used to be. I bought one recently, along with a Chilton's....exactly the same text and photos. I have had both Haynes and Chilton's over the years, and Haynes was distinctly better...but that seems to no longer be the case.

 

[AutoMechanic]

Then you just print the pages you need-problem solved.

Then I’ll have to buy a printer lol