Originally Posted by E365
Originally Posted by philipp10
Lots of you seem to think the sedan is dead. It's not, it is still 31% of the market and probably bottomed. GM and Ford just couldn't build sedans as economical and efficient as their competition (Toyota and Honda mainly). You don't see anyone else abandoning 31% of the market. Why? They got out of a profitless area to focus on the few areas left that are profitable. As far as a SUV/CUV, yeah, they are nice. But sedans have their place if you want to move and really drive your car. Some of us don't prefer to drive a box on wheels.
True, they're definitely not "dead", but I think it's quite possible we'll see other sedans and small cars from non-American makers be cut before long.
Check out the Oct 17 vs Oct 18 sales of the Nissan Maxima, Honda Fit, Toyota Yaris, Toyota Mirai, Subaru Legacy, Honda Civic, Kia Cadenza, Hyundai Accent, VW Golf and VW Passat.
All absolutely terrible. Most in the 30-70% drop in sales range. No chance they'll all survive.
but you must remember we just went through a cycle lasting about 7-8 years of high car sales. With cars lasting so long, it was inevitable sales would slow. This is temporary until the next upcycle. OR....gas goes through the roof and GM is caught flatfooted.
Originally Posted by philipp10
Lots of you seem to think the sedan is dead. It's not, it is still 31% of the market and probably bottomed. GM and Ford just couldn't build sedans as economical and efficient as their competition (Toyota and Honda mainly). You don't see anyone else abandoning 31% of the market. Why? They got out of a profitless area to focus on the few areas left that are profitable. As far as a SUV/CUV, yeah, they are nice. But sedans have their place if you want to move and really drive your car. Some of us don't prefer to drive a box on wheels.
True, they're definitely not "dead", but I think it's quite possible we'll see other sedans and small cars from non-American makers be cut before long.
Check out the Oct 17 vs Oct 18 sales of the Nissan Maxima, Honda Fit, Toyota Yaris, Toyota Mirai, Subaru Legacy, Honda Civic, Kia Cadenza, Hyundai Accent, VW Golf and VW Passat.
All absolutely terrible. Most in the 30-70% drop in sales range. No chance they'll all survive.
but you must remember we just went through a cycle lasting about 7-8 years of high car sales. With cars lasting so long, it was inevitable sales would slow. This is temporary until the next upcycle. OR....gas goes through the roof and GM is caught flatfooted.