new valvoline bottles!

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Here's the response i got back from Valvoline.

"Thank you for your question. All products that were updated with the new ILSAC GF-5 specifications are still the same products, such as base oils, additives, etc., there have only been some alterations in the additives to help with deposit control and fuel economy. The original MaxLife products you are accustomed to using, will still perform perfectly fine and supercede the older GF-4 specifications."
 
Originally Posted By: Tom NJ
should an oil make reference on the label to a specification that it does not fully meet?

What do you think?
Tom, I agree that doing so is deceptive. The only way it would be acceptable to me is if the bottle also explained exactly which parts of the spec it doesn't meet and why...but we all know that will never happen.

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Why do we *need* the so-called "high-mileage" oils? Are modern machining techniques so bad that motors are worn out and need help after only 75,000 miles? I read all the time about taxis that used to be police cruisers in former lives and still rack up 250-300,000 miles with no major problems on regular oil.

Please understand that I am in no way dissing MaxLife here, I just want to understand why so many think it's needed.
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Originally Posted By: RF Overlord


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Why do we *need* the so-called "high-mileage" oils? Are modern machining techniques so bad that motors are worn out and need help after only 75,000 miles? I read all the time about taxis that used to be police cruisers in former lives and still rack up 250-300,000 miles with no major problems on regular oil.

Please understand that I am in no way dissing MaxLife here, I just want to understand why so many think it's needed.
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My understanding was that high mileage oils exist to help with the various seals more than anything else... and I have seen them work for that purpose. Age is the enemy of seals, so 75,000 miles is a bit too early to need a high mileage oil in most cases. I personally don't see the point in switching unless there is a actually a problem that the additives have a chance of fixing.

Those 300,000 mile taxis and police cruisers rack up the miles in a shorter than average time and are not likely to have age related seal leaks.
 
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