boone88r..he needs to produce nothing. Maybe he's right and maybe he's not. With all the GC "hoarding" this should be easily uncovered in a small amount of time.
New USA 0W30 Castrol ( AC ???)
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ccs2k1, the Syntec line, except GC, is hydrocracked oil. If you look on Castrol's European site's, the 5w-40 is listed as a hydrocracked oil. So it would be easy for them to start blending it here since they already buy alot of group 3 oil here. GC meets some longlife specs that the 5w-40 does not, and we know it to be a PAO based oil, which is probably required to go long drain intervals. So unless Castrol starts buying PAO in the US just to blend the 0w30 (which would probably not be cost effective since it's not a popular weight and most people know nothing about it like we do here), I think they will continue to import it.
Amen. Precisely. Show me the bottom of the bottle. . .
hey guys, i just read through this and when i went to autozone a couple weeks ago i did see a bottle that said new european formula 0w30 and on the back it said made in the usa...i immediately started throwing that suff on the floor cause behind it was the gc 0w-30. is this bottle that says new european formula is what is in question? if so i seen it and i have no reason to lie...but the closet autozone is over an hour away so im not going to get a pic unless im close.
Well now, we have a second sighting.
This ought to be interesting. John
This ought to be interesting. John
Oh...crud. Sounds like it's time to start hoarding gold. Whodathunkit?
Maybe, maybe not, but I did clen out my semi local AZ on the last pass. Sorry Team Beachst et al. LOL, there will be pleanty of gold around for a while.
Are you guys, who've seen it, really sure that it was 0w-30?
It's pretty common to have the rows of 5w-40 Syntec sitting right next to 0w-30.
Could it be that those two got mixed up on the shelf?
Because the new 5w-40 does say new European formula on the label. And has the made in USA line on the back side of the bottle.
It's pretty common to have the rows of 5w-40 Syntec sitting right next to 0w-30.
Could it be that those two got mixed up on the shelf?
Because the new 5w-40 does say new European formula on the label. And has the made in USA line on the back side of the bottle.
Well, I would like to see a picture of this AC. I don't know if it is true or not, but I know for sure that I am going to buy every bottle of GC that I can find in about a 25 mile radius. (5 AZ's). I have a hard time believing that AC (if it is true) will be the same as GC. I would hate to see another hydrocracked oil replacing GC.
True glx, but the statement "Formulations meeting European standards can be sourced from the US or Europe. It all comes down the most efficient way to supply the product to market taking into consideration development and supply chain logistics." leads me to believe they will either source the PAO bases stock here, import them and pass on the cost to us, or use a hydrocracked base stock and drop some of the longlife specs met.
Not me. I'm still using a 35mm camera. I'd have to borrow one of those new fangled camers from someone.
I have some comments to make. Castrol CAN (if they want) buy PAO and esters in the U.S. Even the new 5W-40 still has some imported components. As long as 0w30 Syntec meets both MB 229.5 and VW 503.01, you can rest assured that it will be very robust. Those are some tortuous tests in terms of TBN retention & engine cleanliness. As some of you may have seen, I have a thread in which I have a simple way to test an oil's basestocks robustness. Heat it up to over 320F for 8 hours and measure the evaporation rate (volatility) and compare to other synthetics. Volatility and basestock quality are closely related (for a given viscosity). If "American Syntec 0W-30" does show up where I shop, I'll buy a quart and test it alongside Gold GC. It will be readily apparent from the results if the basestocks took a nose dive. While this doesn't tell up what Terry's tests of Green GC did (exactly what's in it), my tests are very cheap and very easy to do.
I take it back.
5w-40 Syntec has a yellow label of the similar size positioned in the same location on the bottle, but instead of "New European Formula" it says "Formualated to meet needs of: BMW, Mercedes-Benz and VW".
Still, they can be easily confused since the color schemes look exactly the same.
I believe that it IS possible that people are seeing a new batch of GC that was produced in the U.S. HOWEVER, having said that, I find it curious that EVERY TIME we have had a reported siting of new (supposedly) US made GC throughout the history of this oil, NO ONE has ever found it possible to produce a picture. I am NOT maligning or impugning anyone; I am just saying it is most curious.
After all that's been posted on this and you didn't note the batch number????? A picture would be the conclusive end-of-debate evidence, but the numbers would be almost as good. With as much pre-GC as there still is floating around, I'm not accepting the existence (or non-existence) of this stuff until we get something more than another incomplete, inconclusive verbal description of the oil.
EDIT: My apologies if this comes off as harsh. I'm just getting frustrated with this. To be clear, we need either a photo, or a batch number (how about both!) to lay this one to rest. Until then, we're just going to be going 'round and 'round in circles. . .
[ June 09, 2006, 11:37 AM: Message edited by: ekpolk ]
I'll stop by my AutoZones tomorrow. Plan on doing some good ole GC hunting. I'll let you guys know if I find any of this reported AC. I'll buy a quart, take pictures, write down the M number, etc...
I seriously doubt I'll find any but whatever, GC Hunting is FUN!
I seriously doubt I'll find any but whatever, GC Hunting is FUN!
Hmmm... maybe it is. Maybe it's a ploy by Castrol to boost sales on their current stock of 0W-30.quote:
Originally posted by vad:
It's starting to sound like a conspiracy.
Let the hoarding begin!
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