No oil will fix an engine design problem.
New M1 EP labels ("Triple Action Formula")
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No oil will fix an engine design problem.
It's on the M1 Vanilla label but isn't on the GM D1G3 List. GM must be behind on updating the list.
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I would run M1 EP 10W-30 in ANY car even the fussy European engines!
It probably can pass bunch of these European standards and then some.
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I don't believe that's >3.5 HTHS. I realize that we don't typically see the oil temps seen on the Autobahn but I'm still hesitant to go below the minimum specified operational viscosity.
In reference to what? If you want documentation for D1G3 just ask M1 to send you an email.
Their target market seems to be, um... easily influenced with elementary concepts.
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At least they aren't dumping a dumpster of sludge on people or whipping them with a dipstick, so there's that.
I agree. should have said or meant the way I drive my cars, I won't be afraid of using M1 EP 10W-30 in ANY car.
My typical RPM is below %50 to %60 of redline (max). Mostly under 3000 & over 2000 rpm. Also hate lugging the engine! Not much short trips or stop & go ... So fussy European engines should fell no stress when I drive them. They should be happy and appreciate a good American oil
Kind of boring driving but we have speed limits here and I don't burn rubber or do 40mph in 2nd gear either.
It is, they had claimed A3/B3 until it was removed in the 2021 ACEA Sequence update.
I haven't seen that. I highly suspect that was an error. No one has ever passed GF-5 or GF-6 with an >3.5 HTHS that I know of. The PDS I saw listed A5/B5.
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I was thinking of the high mileage, I seen high mileage earlier in the thread and my mind was fixated on the high mileage 10w-30.
Best news coming out of thus new product offering for me is that there will be clearance sales on the previous product line!
They probably are just going to roll them in under the same sku as the older stock clears out, most places won't clearance it just because it's the old label.
I'm playing catch up on the latest M1 formulations. Is there anything different with this new Triple Action formulation or is just relabeling? Any recent VOA's show anything different? I see that AFE 0w30 has been updated per latest MSDS. Actually, most of the Mobil 1 formulations show changes per their MSDS over the summer.
I think the only claim we can put a number on is the second "action" which is a claim to exceed
seq IIIH test using a FCA pentastar v6 test engine run under load. Then they look at viscosity increase, oil usage, varnish buildup and also for stuck rings.
I don't know which aspect of the sequence IIIH test was demonstrated as performing "20x better"; the bottle label claims footnoted also mentions "viscosity control", but I didn't see that keyed in the text.
Here is a brief summary of the engine test they are claiming to exceed:
Oil and coolant temps are run very hot, intake air at a moderate dew point and typical underhood temperature ( IAT = 95degF )
https://www.intertek.com/automotive/sequence-iiih-iiiha-iiihb/
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Meh…if it doesn’t have intelligent molecules I’m not biting. 
Years ago, I coined the phrase Mobil 2 when I gave my 10K used M1 oil to a fellow worker who drove a 25-year-old Chevy to work. He had slow engine cranking in subzero temps along with lifter clatter. I told him to try M1, but the expense was too much for his beater car. Joking, I said do you want some of my 10K Mobil 2 I had not disposed of. He excepted and for another 4 years when he ran low on M2 he would ask if I had any 10K oil for him. Bottom Line: Engine cranking was much faster, and all lifter clatter stopped.
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